539. - Suki Waterhouse

All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. Them Jeans is with me. It's Chris Black coming to you from a still disgusting Manhattan recording. a day early to accommodate our guests' busy schedule. I'm coming off the J.Crew Strokes 40th anniversary. Jason's coming off an omakase. Does it get better than that? No, our two favorite things in life combined into one magical evening, circumnavigating this fine country of ours. Yeah, it's amazing that we both had beautiful evenings. You were celebrating your birthday with an omakase. I was celebrating the birthday of one of my employers. And, you know, there are some parallels there. Well, you got paid and I paid money. So there are a few parallels. Okay. My wife paid money, of course. Yeah, exactly. Carolyn paid, bro. This is your birthday. We're celebrating TJ all week long because you're having the full birthday activation for the close friends. um later this week correct yeah it's it's tt's birthday week of course this is wednesdays so i'm filling my days with you know chores around the house things like that uh but it's fine it's stuff that needed to get done and my body frankly is sore so i i didn't really have it in me to do a full workout today yeah what do you actually i had a question for a fitness guru like yourself what do you do when please when it's it's let's say it's leg day and and you

It hurts for you to waddle to the bathroom to go brush your teeth in the morning. What do you do? The crazy thing is, Jason, today was actually leg day for me. So that's cute. But no, I power through because the only thing that makes that feel better is moving the body, is the reality. You know what I mean? Like if you're truly sore, the only thing to do besides take, of course, Aleve muscle and back, my favorite. Um, is to kind of get the body moving, you know, even if it's some body weight stuff, like that's the only thing that's going to give you the relief unless you have a full, you know, unless you're Ben Shelton and you've got the trainer and you're, you're warming down after, you know what I mean? And you, I know you don't have your 20 things like that. Yeah. If you're 20. Yeah. So I mean, we should talk about it. Uh, because last night, so the strokes play the J crew party at pier 17. It was amazing. Uh, if you were there, I hope you had a blast. The strokes, um, are one of those amazing bands that couldn't be. more disinterested in playing but sound amazing, which is just a very insane line to walk. And I feel like they might be the only one that walks that line. But I did sweat. I sweat through my suit because I committed to wearing a new kind of chalk stripe J. Crew suit and I had it tailored in time for this event. And that was a mistake. I was able to shower, so it's not that big a deal. It was a mistake temperature-wise. Temperature-wise, I thought it looked great. I loved the suit. It's really nice. You paired it nicely with a vintage Wilco t-shirt. Yeah, which people were really into the Wilco. For the heads, for all my Chicago... They were very excited. So you're telling me all the Wilco fans liked it when you wore a Wilco shirt? Well, I guess it's Wilco fans coming out of the woodwork, I guess is what I'm saying. It's people that you might not expect to be Tweety heads being Tweety heads. But after the event, luckily the U.S. Open goes so late, but our man Ben Shelton was playing Big Foe last night.

He kind of whipped his ass. You know what I mean? It was like there was one set where it was close where he double faulted twice, which is absolutely insane, and then hit two of the craziest returns I've ever seen. But I wanted to talk about the amount. He was in control the whole match for sure. Totally in control. I want to talk about how much these guys are sweating because it's aspirational. Yeah. It's perspirational. Jason, have you ever sweat so much that you had to change your shoes? That is something I've never seen. That is something. Like, Tiafoe brings out four pairs of his custom big faux Nike tennis shoes, and he changes shoes and socks at least three times during every match because he's soaked through. And I feel like it, you know, like if you go on a water ride at Disney World, you know, and you get off, that's what they look like. But, you know, I just, it's. It's amazing to realize that they're sweating like that for four or five hours and still able to play at that level. Well, it's interesting that you brought up you go on a ride at an amusement park that gets you wet, and then you would change because the last time I ever changed shoes because I got wet was because I would go to Knott's Berry Farm and go on the water splashy ride, and my mommy would bring a change of clothes and keep it in the locker. Yeah. And then we would do that water splash ride like five times, get it out of the system, and then go change into look number two. Very smart, but literally you have to have somebody there like your mommy or your coach or Nike to give you that option because I've been sweaty enough. I've been as sweaty as Tiafoe was, but the thought of changing shoes. because of that never crossed your mind because i didn't i didn't have mother nike there never no never crossed why are you wearing those soggy shoes yeah freshen ones right here when i was in the lakewood amphitheater parking lot in 1995 at the warp tour just melting on the asphalt vans wasn't there to kind of sweep in and give me a new pair of eras you know to kind of help me well through the day funny you say that because i have been at warp tour

lost a pair of vans in a in a pennywise mosh pit one of my shoes fell off and i walked to the vans booth and they said if we had them in your size big fella we would bless you would give you a new pair of shoes and i said vans you guys are well there's there's that leads me to a next question jason you were okay so you're saying that you had Your foot was a 17 when you still liked Pennywise. So who's at fault here? No, it was probably smaller than that, but they still didn't have my large. We only had sample sizes over there at the war. No one on stage at Warped Tour is above a size 9 shoe. We all know that. So they kind of keep the stock according to what they... They're like, do they come in double digits? We didn't even know that. Yeah, for the data. It's hard to kickflip with a big foot, you know what I mean? Preaching to the choir. It was great to watch. I stayed up until midnight because I was just still buzzing from the party, and then watching Ben kind of whip ass got me a little pumped up. Yeah, it was cool to share that. The US Open is the one time of the year where... I'm on the same kind of time frame as everyone else in New York when everyone's watching the game at midnight in New York. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's 9 p.m. in L.A., and I'm brushing my teeth, putting my PJs on, getting ready for bed, and I'm like, damn, Chris Black is awake right now with three hours difference. He loves this game. No, I love this game. I mean, when it gets down to this point, I mean, I guess as a person who doesn't really watch sports, It's rare to feel like that, but honestly, because we spent time with Ben, I feel personally invested in a way that I usually don't, where I'm like, I would have watched that until 1030, but instead I stayed up until midnight because I wanted to make sure he was taking it, which it feels good to care, to be honest, which is rare for me to say. Yeah, it was probably the first time where I felt as if I had a personal vested interest in a sports athlete playing in a match where I was

legitimately rooting for him for the simple reason that two weeks ago we were taking selfies together and talking and chatting. I have a real personal connection. I don't have that with Federer, even though he's a bigger name. We didn't have that same connection. It's harder to connect with guys that are kind of on that level. But I was actually talking to Olivia from on earlier, and she's like, are you in the city? And I was like, yeah. She's like, let me see what I can do. So I don't even really want to go, but I feel like if I was in the box, he would beat Djokovic. I think that I would wear a How Long Gone hat for the first time ever, so it was on camera. But, you know, we'll see. I have plans to go to the Rimawa party starring Central Sea with a friend of the show, David Cho. But, you know, what are you going to do? It's a tough call. So when is his next match? tomorrow night and that's the same night as remova yeah i believe so you know cho's gonna maybe go to some bad restaurant before i can't wait i cannot cannot wait yeah but uh anyways way to go ben sheldon and for everyone who's complaining about him celebrating uh like a child remember he is a child also you fucking nerds like the dialed in thing makes a lot of sense and it's clear when you diss the dialed in thing that you aren't an athlete that's what that says that's what that says to me yeah and We've seen some of the stupidest celebrations of all time on the football field, and no one's calling those jokers out. Actually, that's not true, but I agree with you. You know what I mean? I mean, I guess some people are. White people are. Old white guys hate it. Old white guys are upset when you've done a victory dance in the end zone. But, yeah, everyone is fine with Djokovic singing, you've got to fight for your right to party. Fucking dork. We should not be. That's the issue. Start at the top and work our way down. Start with fucking Lego head and work your way down. Ben's far down the list. Ben looks like a fucking hot TikToker and he's got a fucking serve and a forehand. He can hold the phone up to his ear for my money. That's how I feel about it. You fucking haters, dude. They're everywhere.

So right before the – I missed – I was getting a coffee, and I ran into Lauren Sherman, actually, and we were chatting. And I missed the Chloe Sevigny fucking awesome collaboration went on sale. And it sold out of what I wanted. But there is a three-button polo with kind of an F.A. heart logo with a little pink bow. And, you know, Brent, friend of the show, Brent's boyfriend is a very well-known skate filmer and photographer. And he has a relationship with F.A., and Brynn is putting in the call for me to get the XL and the Chloe polo. I just wanted to update you. I just wanted to update you on that. Is this an item that you will wear, or is this one for the archives? This is one for the archives. I mean, what people really want is the photo tee from her high school photo that's on the board. But that's a little dead on to me. Sure. And it's also sold out. So the XL and the polo I won't wear feels better for the storage closet. That's exciting. Yeah, and shout-outs to Chloe. Hopefully one day we got her on the pod. All right, so our guest today who joined us early, which is shocking because this has been rescheduled 15 times, so we love that, Suki Waterhouse. I believe she's joining us from London. You know her music. You know her acting. You know her from the Internet, television, movies. But she's going to tap in with us today, and we're going to find out what Father John Misty smells like, important stuff like that. All right, let's give her a call, and we're going to learn all of that and more. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, sort of our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world... writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools.

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All right, Sookie came through with the cans. These are professional grade, no hot girl AirPod Pros for you. And I appreciate, I didn't know you were an audiophile. So if you want to talk about that, you can. Yeah, I wish I could take full credit for these. They're my boyfriend's and I could tell he was very upset with me taking them away just then because he wants to be like... Babe, no, babe, babe, please. Those are my good ones. Well, he was probably like, I was planning on wearing these so I don't have to hear you talk. for the next hour. No, I know exactly what he wants to do. He wants to be making beats upstairs while I'm doing this. And now he can't. Beats, they're doing this podcast. No offense to you. He wants to be sampling the new air fryer that I just got and all those exciting sounds. Do you guys have an air fryer? No. Well, Chris doesn't cook and I am too advanced. for an air fryer so you're somewhere in the middle well I don't I don't cook either I don't cook either I had a feeling you didn't cook I had a feeling you didn't cook but I'm terrible so did you buy this for yourself or is this like a gift from someone no I bought it for myself look I even today actually this silicon air fryer fork fork has just arrived big day big mail day it's a huge day Wow. Yeah, no, I'm deep into TikTok. But it's so silly. I'm TikTok-ing how to cook a sweet potato in an air fryer. It's like a revelation. And I'm like, this is the most delicious sweet potato I've ever had. But I did try and cook salmon the other day. And asparagus. And I know that there's crispers involved, but everything was incredibly, incredibly crispy. Oh, wow. Burnt, crispy. Okay. Everything was crispy. Well, I know that Chris wants to know about that salmon in the air fryer smell. How does it perfume the abode? I think pretty good. I couldn't smell anything. It was absolutely fine. Okay. Okay. I think you're nose blind, first of all. Or maybe, maybe. Hear me out.

Your house might be larger than my New York apartment, so maybe the smell is able to spread out. Listen, I'm in the same situation as being in New York. I'm in London. That's true. I live in a box, obviously. We can't. It's the same thing. I feel like even if you... Yeah, I don't know. In New York, you have to have so much money to have any kind of space. I'm getting there. Don't remind me. Because my chick will cook... and it takes two days to air out. I'm lighting diptyques. I'm fucking taking the rag out and fanning it, and there's nothing I can do to get that fish. Putting a fresh coat of paint on the walls in the kitchen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I like salmon. That's the fish I probably like the most. But it's not that nice to cook it in your house. I do agree with you. And then the cleanup is just absolutely disastrous. And I really don't like washing up in any way or even putting things in the dishwasher. That usually puts an end to things, but I do think a sweet potato with a little cottage cheese and tuna and sweet corn seems to be the easiest thing to go. I have a jacket. I have a loaded jacket. Okay, sweet potato, tuna, cottage cheese, and what was the other one? Tuna, sweet potato, cottage cheese. Sweet corn. And sweet corn, yeah. Sweet corn, okay. I can't be arsed. to create that dish. That's a wild combination. That's a twisted meal. But it's full of very good nutrients. It's simple. Those are all very nutritious, healthy, amazing foods to eat. I love cottage cheese. Do you guys know what I like? Do you have to do jacket potato? Like today for lunch I had, when I'm in London, I get the same jacket potato delivery, just a jacket potato, baked beans, and then tuna mayo and sweet corn as well. And that's like a very classic British. meal okay sookie sookie not not to get too deep with you this early but how's your digestion because that's pretty extreme no it's not at all i digest potatoes really well i think obviously

On a scale of 100. You said a jacket potato? What does that mean? A jacket potato is a baked potato loaded with whatever you fancy. A loaded baked potato is sure. When you say tuna mayo, that's just like a tuna salad mixed with mayo like you'd have on a sandwich? No, a salad. Just tuna and mayonnaise. You're not putting it into a blender and creating a tonado-like sauce with the tuna and the mayo? Not a sauce. Not a sauce, just to be clear. I got in some hot water because we actually were in London recently. We did a couple shows. We go to all the hot restaurants in London. I don't consider myself to be a super picky eater, but sometimes the British cuisine is difficult for me. And today on Twitter, I posted this photo of a meal that was just eggs. It was hard-boiled eggs covered in anchovies and sitting in a bed of mayonnaise. It was a girl dinner. There may have been some capers on the plate as well. And I was like, this is what I'm talking about. This is insane. Like, this is insane to eat this for lunch, but it sounds like you're not far off from that. No, that sounds, yeah, that sounds pretty good. No, this is, yeah, it's a nice hearty meal. But there are things that I don't, yeah, that's just something that I don't really get to do that much in the States. Like, you just can't. That's true. No, that's true. It just doesn't come as easy. Like, they just understand it here. And I haven't been in London for, I haven't been in London for ages. Like, this is the first time. Like, I haven't been in my place in London for, like, a year. Oh, that long? Well, maybe, like, I maybe had, like, a couple of nights, but, like, I've been. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, when I've come to London, like, I don't know, someone has been in hotels and stuff like that. Like, I haven't really been in my place for a long time. There's nothing more pleasurable than flying back to where you live, but staying in a hotel instead of your own house. It's so good. I'm really bad. No, but, like, tonight, because, like, you forget, just, like, going back to, like, comparisons of America, like, right now, it's.

so hot in london and you know like nobody has air conditioning here it's just not a thing it's so strange no air con it's boiling hot so last night yeah yes yesterday i just hadn't slept at all i slept like six hours and i was roasting in this bed my my bed like my apartment's like a little it's like my girly boudoir and it's not really like designed to have like my boyfriend with me so the bed's quite small and it's boiling hot and i broke yesterday and i was like i'm getting us a hotel so actually after this it's 8 p.m right now and after this i'm gonna i'm gonna walk over to this like really like basic hotel in nottingham i've been on the phone to them all day being like like do you guys have air conditioning like do you have a but then i realized that a double bed is actually smaller than a queen bed. Yes, it is. Yes, yes. I'm fucked with a queen bed. Well, you could get a roll away or a pull out, you know what I mean, and just split it up. Do you think maybe if you and your boyfriend split it, you guys can upgrade to a queen maybe? Yeah. There's no, I checked. There is none. You're like, I tried. There's nothing in this hotel. I'm not trying to book like a super fancy hotel. I'm not trying, you know, it's like silly. Like I literally have a place. But also the shutters, like I just, I kind of remember all these things. I have these shutters that just like... razor beam light in a very specific way. They're not blind. I'm very excited. It bounces the light and turns it into a very powerful stream of energy that makes it hard to sleep. Yeah, you really need blinds. I've realized and remembered that. And then tomorrow you're sweltering. You're going to wake up. I'd love an iced coffee or an Erewhon-style cold brew, but you can't get that over in London town either, can you? Not in the same way, I don't think. That's a very nice way to put it. Where did you go? Where did you eat when you were here? What were the fancy places that you went to? Over the years? Where you had all your eggs. All of them. Rochelle Canteen, St. John. What's the other place? Mountain, the new hot spot. We talked about it here. I haven't been to any of these places. You've been to St. John. You've been to St. John. I've never heard of St. John. What's a John?

Wow, that's... Oh, mate. Mate. Have you been to the River Cafe? Yes. There we go. I grew up around there, yeah. Okay. I just recently went with my wife to the River Cafe, and we have to now redo our entire interior of our home to sort of match the beautiful... I mean, it's an amazing room, isn't it? But it has this cobalt blue carpeting running through it in any other place that would never work. but for some reason it works there, and now we have a big-ass blue room. Did you love the food there? Were you completely crazy about it? I liked the food a lot. I don't know if I would love it, but when you combine – the food is good enough, but you combine it with the vibe. You kind of go there. There's a certain type of restaurant all over the world where you go there with the idea that you're going to drink a bunch of wine and have fun with your friends and kind of pick at some bits throughout, but you're not going there with the – I'm going to have a proper meal. Yeah, there is something so beautiful about being down by the river, actually. I went near Barnes Bridge the other day and had a meal down there. Oh, no, near Hammersmith Bridge, sorry. We don't know. When you walk down by the river in London, it's pretty startling. I'm still a little taken aback that you didn't know. St. John's, it's always been billed to me as the most British. kind of restaurant like a very popular like all americans from new york or la especially that's where they want to go to get their kind of maybe she wasn't eating that type of food during her formative years maybe that's why maybe that's why i don't know it though is it a little like is it kind of like no no it's very cool that's the thing it's a british institution like famous and cool yeah i i wouldn't recommend it but please by all means check it out you should go it's delicious no i'm totally gonna go now I'm going to, where am I going tomorrow? Le Petit Maison. Have you heard of that? No. It sounds cute. That's meant to be very great. Well, I don't know if I would say that because this episode will be out tomorrow, so you might have some fans there. Oh, it's going to be out tomorrow? No, no, Jason. It's going to be out Friday. Oh, it'll be out Friday. So you will have done that. I always thought these would go on for ages. But the other place that's really good that's just opened, there's actually two around Notting Hill.

this place called Strakers, which the guy was, uh, he's been on TikTok a lot with his, he's got a lot of skills of transforming butter. I've heard a lot. I've heard a lot about. this guy a lot about this guy. Me too, me too. I know, I know. He likes to hire a lot of white guys that look just like him only? Oh, is that what the story... Well, no, no, no. We've heard other stories about his... There's other things. I know, I know. There's other things. But anyway, besides that, I'm too local to get involved in that stuff. I'm too local. I can't get involved. I'm just too local. I can get involved in the horses drama because I've heard shit about that. Chris is on timeout for horses right now. We're on timeout. But I've heard you guys talk about it. That's further and half away from me. But I went the other night and the food is really good. And then also Zephyr has just opened on Portobello. unbelievable like the most unbelievable the way they cook monkfish is really so I would recommend what they do with monkfish over there I don't know guys it's really it's really really special I'm talking about my favorite facialist and stuff like that, so it's definitely good. What they do over there. I would say Zephyr and Monkfish both sound like names of Red Hot Chili Peppers' children. Yeah, no, it's true. It does exactly sound like that, and that makes it more fun for us, so thank you. Before you were in London, you were in L.A. for a long time, right? Yeah, I kind of live over there more. I've just sort of been on tour, I guess. I was on tour like the whole of January and then I came off that tour and then did a press tour for... The TV show I might be... That you can't talk about. I'm going to be... For the redacted SAG project. The redacted SAG project. There's a lot of people starring in redacted... We're here to talk about music and sweet potatoes only, babe. Don't worry. Yes. But yeah, that was impressive. And then what did I do after that? I feel like...

I don't know. Then I just did more. Then it was just more shows. Sure. It's been like more many tours. And now I'm kind of still on. It's touring system. Yeah, exactly. I'm still sort of on. I'm still, yeah, on shows. This has been like a. This has been a really nice break, actually. I feel like summers. I just kind of spent the whole summer. I did like sort of working trips. My favorite. My favorite kind. I can relate. You're not a lay on the beach. type? No, I haven't been on holiday. So like Chanel's play this party in Mykonos and you're like, yeah, I guess I'll do that. Is it like that? No, I mean like rented and up now. Okay, you would get an Airbnb but then you would bring the laptop and then make some beats and stuff while you're there. Got an Airbnb and then... And then I bought people, I bought people up and yeah, I bought, I bought producers up and stuff like that. And we had a full, it was a full kind of working people in and out and, and yeah, upstate in like a sleepy little town. Not like, not the Hamptons, just like a completely random. Okay. So you went Bon Iver mode, get a cabin, garbage bag full of mushrooms. You know what's weird? No. And then once I finished it, once I finished the thing upstate, I actually went to Wisconsin. with some of the songs I did to Born Out of the Studio. I've heard. So is it truly magic there, or do you have to be on drugs to understand it? I really like Wisconsin. I mean, it was kind of wild. I bet you do. Because, you know, if you don't... If you've never seen something like that, like, in America, I feel like it's pretty eye-opening for someone who's not from America. You know what? It's always so cool. To be there. Yeah, it was amazing. And also... It's just different. It's just different. Yeah, it's different. And, like, the people are quite different. Like, you kind of get a kind of sense of that, like, really sweet soul, kind of good-natured people. And what I really thought was great about Wisconsin is, like, you go past all the farmers.

like all their farms the houses and people are so proud and like the all the houses are so beautifully kept up and like i learned that actually from from talking to people that like farmers love keeping things really clean and i thought that was i don't know interesting oh i didn't i never i've never thought i don't know many farmers i guess you can't be a dirty farmer right like otherwise everyone's like oh your your pigs are disgusting um yeah that's okay yes yeah if your house looks like that then what does the pig pen look like you know yeah that makes exactly that makes sense what is this so you know touring is Touring is awful, and we all know that, and it's a tough putt, but I think that you're in an interesting position because you're doing a classic musician on tour in the bus with the band, but then you're also doing a press tour historically, which is a little more upmarket, or is it not? No, not really. Yeah, I guess the fact that you have a hotel room is pretty upmarket. You'd be surprised. Do you get to travel by airplane at least? You get to travel by airplane. But traveling by bus is kind of cool. Sometimes I'll be like, oh, I really want to have... you know i'm just desperate to get off this bus and i'll i'll fly instead and then when you're on tour you're just like oh why did i get off the bus like this is an absolute shit show like i'm having to you know you have to wake up so early and then the plane's delayed and you have to get to sound check it's just yeah and something i don't know there's like something inevitably crazy happens did you see that article today with the the guy on the airplane that had explosive diarrhea and they had to turn back the plane yeah i saw the i saw the video of it i saw the video of it today me too i saw the video of it today okay guys i didn't watch i didn't watch the video because i'm an adult i mean okay at least at least you can shit on an airplane you can't even do that on a bus right no no and actually someone someone did on on the on the coolest place in the world tour and we had to um

uh it was i don't even want to tell the story because i actually have talked about it in interviews before and it's kind of i need to so you fired you fired the bass player i get it it happens these guys these guys can't behave it's crazy there's been a lot of situations where i'm on a plane and then there's like a medical emergency or they say like oh is there a doctor on the plane and you're thinking the whole time i'm thinking selfishly like If we have to put this thing down in Des Moines, Iowa, I'm going to be so fucking pissed off kind of thing. But in that diarrhea situation, I'd be like, no, let's land it. I will go spend the next time. I'll do a five-hour layover in Denver. Let's land this thing. I can't handle it. Take it down. Can you just imagine what this person must be going through? The embarrassment. The embarrassment. That's got to be the most shameful walk of shame down the aisle you could ever do. Have they been outed? Have they been outed by name? No. I don't think so. Oh, my God. How awful would that be? No, this person cannot be outed. They were taken away in an ambulance. mail is gonna find out the daily mail is gonna find out there's no way yeah they're gonna find it they're gonna go knock on their door those a lot of those planes they're kind of old some of them feel like they're from the 70s you know like like decades older than than we are i want to know at some point like you you're walking the dog you step in shit and sometimes you just say fuck it i'm just gonna throw the shoe away right at what point does does delta say I'm just going to throw this plane away because you can never clean that out, you know? Yeah, you know what? Did you not read the full article? There was all these people talking about how they were the next passengers on the plane after the ship. Oh, no. Oh, they tried to clean it. Oh, they did. People were praising the turnaround time because they cleaned it and replaced the carpets in five hours. Thank you so much for forcing me to fly on diarrhea everywhere. I love paying $1,000 to be in diarrhea one. Some people were like, you can just tell that they used a load of vanilla essence. It was just shit. It's like getting an Uber X and being like, oh, it smells like throw up and like pinesol in the car. Normally we say you can't smoke on the plane, but today we encourage it. Pull out the vapes, pull out the elf bars.

I would rather smell creme brulee vape than that. So go ahead. You guys go fucking crazy. Suki in 3B, if you want to fire up that salmon in the air fryer, go ahead. Go ahead. We let you carry that on just this once. Just this once. Oh, my God. Well, speaking of food, you and Chris might have another thing in common. The world of peptides. Oh. Are you still shooting things into your arse? I actually listen to my arse. I was quite enjoying. shooting peptides, because everyone seems to be telling me to take them, but then I left them. I sort of was struggling with traveling with them, and I left them somewhere. You've got to keep them refrigerated, right? Yeah, but I left them in a refrigerator, so I lost them, and then I sort of didn't think. Are you on them, Chris? How do you feel? Do you feel good? I mean, I've got a friend that looks so glowy, and she says she's been on them for a while. I'm on them, but it's not. I guess I am glowing. Thank you for noticing. You do, actually. That's my lighting. It's really nice in here. It flows. I'm sure you're familiar. There's like a little glow just above the eyebrow. He has a halo effect. Which is interesting because he has no windows in his apartment. My jail cell is well lit. It costs a lot of money. The ring light looks amazing. Yes, I'm on them. It's only been a couple months, but I do think it's working. The doctor, I sent my blood in for the second time and he tests it. looks at all the levels and is like everything's tracking like the right way like you it's taking basically you know what i mean is what he said um yeah but i joked about on the show and with jason but traveling with needles as a sober guy makes me feel really cool I feel like I'm a bat. I would love for them to be like, why do you have all these needles? It's like, oh, funny you ask, actually. I really care about my muscles. I've got a doctor's note right here for you. I have a doctor's note. I really enjoyed, though, the action of waking up and shooting something in my butt.

And it was good for just waking up in the morning. I found that I could sort of substitute it for a coffee. So hold on. Well, just to get that little spark. Now, when your doctor, when you were talking about getting these, what were the benefits you were looking for? Like, what were they selling it to you as? Well, I asked for Ozempic. They said no, so they gave me this. Sorry, go ahead. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. No, we don't think that. That, by the way, apparently just makes everyone shit themselves. That's all I. Oh, really? Yeah. I've also heard. That's what it does. Yeah. It kills your appetite. Makes you. I've also heard it. It literally flattens your ass. like if you have any sort of ass you lose it quickly i'm not doing that like i'm not doing that like that's like a good i feel like i have like a secret quite good but that i like don't really sure like it's actually but like i don't like show it off in a crazy like it sounds really bad but it's like a little secret i feel like i keep yeah it's like and i wouldn't And I would never sacrifice that with the Ozempic. There's probably some Reddit message boards that have found out about it. No, there's not. There's not. Really? See, I feel the same way. That's why I don't take off my shirt when I'm running outside or anything because I can't give that away for free. You know what I'm saying? I have to have that for my personal life. You know what I'm saying? Whereas what little ass I do have, I need to hold on to. So I will also steer clear from the Ozempic. And I will definitely not take it before a flight. But I guess the benefits that I was looking for, I mean, it's just like being a junkie, isn't it? Overall. Yeah, it's like overall. oh god could i you know could i not feel like i'm dying all the time uh well that's the thing touring that's the thing touring makes you feel like you're dying all the time and i feel like maybe you know peptides it's insane but after after going on tour i'm i'm a complete i mean i'd never had that sort of adrenaline push and you are definitely like

I mean, body-wise, there's been so much adrenaline that you can eat loads. I lost a lot of weight on that. That's surprising. You're just on a different... Really? I think a lot of people eat like shit and drink too much, and it doesn't even out. It doesn't even out. Not a lot of time to hit the Barry's Boot Camp on tour. I just feel like you're in this state of deep, uncomfortable panic. And panic burns a lot of calories. I think it's the panic and the adrenaline and just the constant... um, level of discomfort. And then, yeah, but I don't, yeah, I'm like completely like my, my nervous system is, is completely back to normal now. And I just went to, I just went to, um, uh, I got like a, I got a holiday and, um, last week and I went to, uh, Tanzania for, for a week, which was, that's kind of crazy. What do you do out there? You go on safari? Yes. Oh, okay. Which safari is. Safari is like, it was unbelievable. It's also like, it's not very relaxing. It's like watching Real Housewives. Like it's so intense. Like you're out there in the car for eight hours a day. Yeah, Real House Lions. Yeah, Real House Lions. So you've basically, you've basically gone, you've basically like taken a flight to New York every day. Like with how long you've been sat watching things and walking around. But I saw like, yes. And it's quite. You come home and you're like, I've just witnessed, like, brutal murders that you kind of watch from beginning to end. And then, you know, you watch these, like, a family of boars and there's one that's not doing very well. And you can see the lions just, like, circling her and her legs a bit funny. And, like, you know, her family, they get bored after a while and they're like, we just have to leave you. And then literally there's, like, a lion, like, runs.

Two lions run at it, one gets its neck, and one just starts eating its ass. I don't have the stomach for it. I really don't. I don't like that. So that was a humbling experience to see real life. And you can't interfere, of course, with the... with nature, the butterfly effect and all, you know? So are you sitting in like a... Otherwise, you would have jumped out of that Range Rover and got in there to save that bore, right? So it's like the sand-colored Range Rover with the old Land Rover with the roof chopped. So cute. Yes, and open sides as well. So are you using binoculars or are you close enough at all times where this is just right up? 4K. You're close enough pretty much all the time. I mean, I saw one that was a little bit further away, and that was in a different part of the country that was a little bit busier park, and that was not as cool because it was further away. quite a lot of people were there so it was sort of like disneyland for the murder and everyone it was like 30 cars all you know looking at looking at this lion killing but then the other one was um the other one was really cool because it was in the serengeti and uh and like i'd gotten up at like 5 30 and no one like no one else really had to go out and look you know and so it was like really it was very special seeing that just me and the monguses Yes. I'm up early for my feeding. Okay, so when you go out there, other than spending 7 to 12 hours a day looking at animals kill and fuck, what other stuff are you doing out there? Did you hit the town? Is there a scene report? Did you find a cute little lunch spot? No, there's no scene report. You can't even walk. You can't even walk. Is there a place for an omelet around here? I just saw... No, no, no. They told us never to unlock the door, so I have no idea about a scene. No, you're not even allowed to walk around without someone with a gun. Can I inquire about the accommodations? Because you don't...

You don't strike me as a glamping type, unless it's Glastonbury, of course. Were you able to chromecast at your hotel? I don't strike you as a glamping type. No, I've been... I started going to festivals when I was like... Yeah, no, I've definitely... I've hung out of a tent and been... You know, submerged in water like half, but that was quite a long time ago. Submerged in water? Yeah, like, you know, had a bad tent situation. Of course, of course. You've had a Burning Man 2023 type of situation at Glastow or something. The mud at Glastow is obviously famously muddy. Do you have any friends at Burning Man right now? Just Diplo. I haven't heard from people for a while. Diplo's okay. Don't worry. Diplo's okay. He made it out. Don't worry. You guys can still get your session done. It's all good. Our friend sent a photographer. He got sent there on assignment and then got stuck. He was like, bro, you would have lost your fucking mind. He sent me this photo. of a guy completely submerged in mud with a fucking bench pressing in the mud but he was like you would be fine i think i saw the same photo it was like the same is it it's crazy yeah yeah but he made it out because he was basically like they told us not to leave but you're just like no like i'm gonna leave like i'm out dude yeah but he's the only person i've talked to do you think private helicopters could still land or was it was a no-go zone I'm sure. I feel like it might be some Indiana Jones type shit where you got to like jump. You know what I mean? You got to grab on. Oh, that sounds fun. You got to grab on. Oh my God. The way that that made, the way it made me never ever want to go. Like, I'm sure that's just turned people off for life. That's a nail in the coffin for most people. But you guys, you being in London and Chris being in New York, here in LA.

you can drive around and you can see people's cars and you're like, oh, you are at Burning Man. Like there's a car, a person that lives on my street and their car is completely covered in that exact mud color. No, I was going to say, I went to Glastonbury and was in a tent or like a yurt, I think two years ago or maybe three now because of... I didn't go last time. We're not counting COVID. Yeah, and then there was COVID. But I think, yeah, something sort of changed in me. I sort of thought, I don't think, I think this is my last year of not. off site yeah look it's called it's called aging and it happens to all of us and you realize maybe this isn't for me anymore and that's okay it's just too many hours of the of the festival and and i'm like okay i have put in a good a good 15 years of this but but it's too many hours at the festival like i don't think i want to be at the festival at six you know waking up six i don't want to see everyone shower i don't want to have chat brushing teeth same yeah i don't want to like i don't want to be excited to go watch lana del rey at 345 and then wonder the whole time if like people are stealing all my belongings from my tent exactly you know what i mean they took my fucking blackberry charger bro what am i gonna do it's like cocaine you hit a certain age and you're like it's just it's not worth it you know like the the pros are not outweighing cons once you hit a certain age yeah it's amazing like some of the things yeah when i think back to some of the what i was comfortable doing at glastonbury at like 17 years old i mean i would be it's amazing i'm just gonna leave it there because you're like all you can think about is arctic monkeys you don't even care about any of the danger around it yeah i could die from this nitrous but if i don't see arctic monkeys tonight i'm i can't go home especially once you get your first artist pass and you're like oh no

I am not going to go into any campsite ever again unless it's for a meet and greet. Yeah, if I'm standing on the stage watching Stone Roses reunite, I don't know if I could camp for that. The only thing I could camp for is Oasis coming back. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcast. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone. It was brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need a fucking something put together, a cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. And, I mean, how it works, TaskRabbit connects you with skilled taskers in your area. They can help you move. They can assemble furniture. repairs, yard work, mounting, and more. You can search for a Tasker based on cost, skill set, availability, and past client reviews so you know exactly who's showing up and can have confidence that they know what they're doing because Taskers have assembled over 3.4 million pieces of furniture, completed 700,000 home repairs, handled 1.5 million moves, and the numbers are just going up, Jason. Yeah, throw a little money at the problem. It's not so expensive, and that job that you really don't want to do is something that another person out in the world,

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Whereas everyone I know thinks it's very cool. A certain kind of person. If they reunite, maybe they feel like that because it's just so deeply upsetting that they haven't been together. for a long time. Oh, I see. They're, like, rejecting it. Yeah, maybe they're just rejecting it. We're still licking our wounds from when you broke up decades ago. I just, yeah, there's not that many things. It's just, like, Oasis and football that can really make, like, a lot of men get together, especially, and just, you know, even when you see Liam perform, they're just sobbing. and all singing together. There's something so beautiful. Yeah, it's football, it's football, Oasis, and of course, Alcoholics Anonymous. Those are the three things to get men together to kind of shed their tears and enjoy themselves. Yeah, but would you rather see, if you could pick one reunion, Oasis or The Smiths? To be honest, I'd pick Oasis. That's fine. Because it would just be a little, it would be... It would feel like a deeper emotional... It would be a religious experience for you. It would be a religious experience, and I think it would just do a lot for the country. Oh, I... I like that. It could mend the wounds of Brexit, right? Yeah, Brexit's over. We're good. It's all good. Yeah, Oasis reforms. It's the Brentrance. Yeah, we got a new prime minister. We all like him. It's so crazy. I didn't know this was going to happen. What is the... I mean, did your parents listen to stuff like that growing up? Was it that big in your household? No. It wasn't? Okay. No, no, no. No, my parents listened to... Who do they listen to? They weren't really actually very good at... having music around actually at all no my parents weren't either but i was wondering i know and that's like a strange thing i'm like you guys were really shit like nothing of how i learned about music was from my parents it was like my dad playing bruce bernstein yeah a lot that could have pushed you to search it out more which definitely happened to me which is it did better maybe depending on you know how it could go as as a musician do you ever feel

Envious of other people where you hear them in interviews and they're saying, when I was five years old, my dad would play. coltrane records on vinyl and my mom was singing dolly parton and music was a big part of my life and all that stuff and then i guess i'm jealous of them in a way because like i'm like your parents weren't just like screaming obscenities at you and like telling you to like the music part whatever yeah and like you didn't have like such a that sounds like the sweetest thing ever you just all get together and like sing a song like wow that was just not happening there was like they were like animals just like there was animals everywhere and children everywhere and like a lot of kids and a lot of screaming and just chaos but no i will say i do but you do remember a few moments and i do remember hearing tracy chapman for the first time going over at the hammersmith flyover with my dad and that was that felt like a religious experience and actually we used to listen to a lot of texas and do you know that band i don't think i do But this sounds like... They're a great band. I just was with Charlene Svateri last night because she came to this award ceremony with me. That band is great. I've literally been listening to them since I was five. It's kind of cool to be friends with them now. I just looked them up. They're a Scottish rock band from Glasgow. Okay. And speaking of, I heard you on an interview with Stuart from Bell & Sebastian on our sister pod. I know, I have a bit of a knack for Scottish musicians. I think Stuart, I just cold emailed him when I didn't really have, I had like a couple of songs out just by myself. He was like, yeah, okay. I'll spend a day with you in the studio, yeah. And you were a Belle and Sebastian fan beforehand, I'm assuming. I was, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Belle and Sebastian. We're a big Belle. I was a huge fan. Yeah, we love Belle and Sebastian. We love Belle and Sebastian. I actually almost wore my Belle and Sebastian shirt last night, but I switched last minute. It wasn't working, but it's a good one. Where were you wearing it to? I worked with J. Creer. We had the 40th anniversary part. The Strokes played the 40th anniversary, so I had to...

I had to put on an outfit. How are the strokes? Because they just played in London as well. I told Jason this. The way they're so deeply disinterested in being there but sounds so good is unreal. It's like unmatched, kind of, like that level. And I guess they also have a lot of hair for guys their age, which I'm starting to think is suspicious. Oh. I had a bad... I kind of feel a little bit like... about one of them. I had a bad experience. Somehow I'm not surprised. Care to share? Not romantic. No, I did it. It wasn't romantic, but I did a music video with the mean one. You were the actress in the video. Yeah, and I was just quite... You know when you're just like, oh wow, I haven't really seen... that level of bickery to like crew and the director and and towards you and you're like wow this is your thing like it's just it's just kind of unimaginable it's just kind of unimaginable like the level but you've met i feel like you've met a lot of people and jason i have met some people and for the most part the more uh respected and like famous for lack of a better term they are the kind of nicer and friendlier they are because i think they expect they expect you to think they're going to be awful so then when they're not it's like the best it's the best thing for their reputation and for the experience for everyone but like the more famous you are as well like i guess the more terrified you are and you also just you just know yeah of course you just know that every yeah you and you also know that every interaction is kind of you know carrot carries a lot of weight no yeah if you don't if you don't if you don't tip 20 Dubois finds out and you're getting hung out to dry. You've got to go 40. Suki's like, I'm actually broke from tipping because I'm so worried. That's why I had to move to London. It's a tipless system over here. I had to come back. You guys are fucked in America. Oh my goodness. You're on constant. You can be sitting somewhere.

People can overhear a conversation or something. I don't know. It's honestly really crazy to the level of neighbor surveillance we've gotten to in every turn. Where it's like, there's got to be a line. I don't know. If you overhear something, that feels wrong. to report it as as new like if it's told to you by the person that's a different thing but overhearing it like if you're at the you're in the lobby of a hotel and you overhear something that's you gotta you can't do that yeah like i love i love gossing i do love goss but i agree that you can you know you can tell your story and and you kind of keep it but it's just like don't just yeah just don't put it on sometimes you feel really proud of yourself for not spilling some really hot goss that you said, I promise I won't tell anyone. It makes you feel like a good person for those brief hours that you don't tell anyone. It really does. And when you cross the line and you... And you cross the line and then you can just keep it going. And it does make you feel amazing, actually. You surprise yourself. I've never been able to do that, but I trust you guys that it's good. I trust you guys that it really pays off. Where do you keep... Yeah, but I bet you do keep this. No, of course, of course. With your partner and stuff and your best friends. Yeah, of course, of course. And then there's usually a time when everyone finds out as well and you get to be like, well, I was... Actually, I already knew. I've known since 2017, actually. There's nothing sweeter than that. I do think there's certain things that I do get. Sometimes I find out a piece of information that I am so excited to tell someone that there's not an ounce of my being that could resist transmitting that information. As soon as it touches my little brain, it goes right to my fingers and right to my iPhone. I cannot wait until Nomi Fry hears about this. specific chunk of info. Literally. There's like five people. It takes a person like you who loves a good bit of goss if I'm sitting on a nice nugget and I'm like, oh, Waterhouse is going to lose her shit when I tell her this more than any other person and then I can't wait to send a cold DM and let her know. I think also because people know I like the information so much, they

absolutely tell me things they shouldn't tell me because they know that I'm going to give them the reaction that it deserves. Yeah, you're just going to scream. Yeah, I'm going to enjoy it. We're going to talk about it. We're going to really chew it up and spit it out versus me being like, oh, that's weird. It's like, are you a good gift receiver? Because I've got a gift for you. Yeah, exactly. Versus you being like, oh, why did you tell me that? Don't tell me that. I don't want to know this. I always want to know this. I always want to know this. I can't. Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, are they going out? And if someone, like, knows and they're like, oh, I wouldn't want to know. Well, is your boyfriend a good gift receiver? Yes. If I'm in an Uber sometimes or, like, around someone else talking to him, like, it's weird. It's happened, like, a few times. Like, someone will be like, is that your mom or something? Is that your mom? Yeah. You're like, no, I have sex with this person. It's so weird. A few times. Because I guess that we like talk. i guess like that's giving me a complex because it's kind of like you know that kind of like oh my god this has been said about me for sure and i'm kind of triggered yes right i have to be honest you've got that comment before 100 if you see like enough if you see like a big divorce happen yeah you know are you are you just like oh my god what do you think happened and then like you're sharing theories and then things are coming out and you're like oh I was right about this everything devolves quickly into gay best friend when it comes to that stuff so that's kind of I don't know how to resist that I don't know how to go into that mode I don't know how I would not go into that mode but do you like love being around girls though and having like a debrief after dinner like do you kind of love that sort of feminine debriefing. I like, yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah, I love a debriefing. Chris loves to kiki. I love to kiki. I don't love to like, yeah, I mean, when you leave a party with, whether I'm with Jason or whether I'm with Alex, we're going to be talking shit about everyone at that party. That's the only reason you go to the party. But for every three shit talks, you say one nice thing about blah, blah, blah, blah. Exactly. Yeah. No, exactly. You talk about like, you know, who's like sort of.

getting with who but that you know yeah i'll always throw it it's like a good for her i'm like that's very good for i'm always like that's really empowering she looked great she looked great she looked great i love it's a it's a healthy weight it looks very healthy yeah it's i but it is i know exactly what you mean like i'm not it also i feel like it used to be even better when you're partying because i feel like when you're hung over and you wake up and kind of go over the night with the people you're with that's when the best stuff would come out you know actually mental things have happened yeah yes yeah exactly and maybe someone missed it you know because they were in the bathroom or whatever so it's you know it's a nice that's the real debrief unfortunately now my debriefs are a little boring but now yeah but now also i i feel like this i mean i'm not sober but i'm like pretty much i don't really go that crazy but yeah you're you find you're basically just debriefing about things that you did like seven years ago yeah it's like this and we call that a dated debrief that's like not urgent at all but like let me tell you about back when i was cool yeah like how many times has your partner like heard like the few stories which should you know of like yeah of course like you have everybody's got three or four legendary tales that they repeat throughout their life to whoever is around it doesn't matter how many times they've heard it. It doesn't matter how much time they've heard. And then you have a podcast. Exactly. That's why we do that. That's why we do that. We just tell the same four stories over and over again. That's kind of true. Suki, do you listen to this podcast or any other podcasts? I actually do listen to your podcast. Well, my manager was such a mess. You know, you were saying in the beginning that we've been, I actually was looking for the Zoom link and I was like, oh my God, we were meant to do this podcast like eight or nine months ago. We've been busy. You've been on tour. We've been on tour. Yeah, exactly. Long time coming. Yeah, I couldn't believe that. But my manager got me, my music manager got me into it. And he's like a boy from Texas. And he's just like, bro, it's the funniest thing. Yeah, yeah. He just like, well, he'll just like burst out laughing about just like things that you've said. And so he got me into listening to it. And then once I started listening, I was like, oh, this.

It's got, like, every single friend. You know, it's got so many people I know and I'm interested in. So, yeah, now I've listened to you guys a bunch. Well, that's great. So I've gotten a taste. But, yeah, to be honest, you guys are kind of the go-to pod, especially when you're going to go on it. Do you listen to music all the time, or is it silence? No, I score the day. I score the day. Hashtag score the day. Hashtag score the day. This feels like something that could trend. No, I have to. Yeah, yeah, I have to. Otherwise, it's just weird being in silence. So you mean like there's... I have to fill my brain. Like I have to fill my... I have to fill my... Every waking moment. Whatever I'm doing. At a certain point, you have to go blank mode so you can think and process all of your inner thoughts instead of repressing them down more and more. That's why I use ambient music. I thought you were going to say ambient. I was like, yes. That's why you use Amien. Well, I also use a lot of drugs to do that. But at a certain point, you have to take a break and listen to yourself and your mind every once in a while. Let a little steam out. Is that walking or just meditating? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes just going on a silent... Walk with no headphones, no music. I've seen that that's an emerging Gen Z trend. Walking is brilliant. Walking is brilliant. Walking is brilliant. Walking is brilliant. I don't know. I don't know. I have been walking a lot at the moment, but then I have to make it into some kind of... You can't just walk to walk. No, I've been walking around, and then I was like, okay, I'm going to get... I don't know. I got tickled by the Fitbit, and I got... You've gotten tickled? Because the data, you're a data slut now. You became a step counter. Yeah, I don't know what happened, but it's literally just because I haven't been working and doing stuff and have been like a little still for a few weeks. And so, yeah, so all that happens is I just get obsessed with like suddenly I'm, it's not really steps. It's actually my heart rate I've started getting really, really into and just suddenly being like, well.

I mean, I'm not getting my heart rate up nearly even a tiny bit. Like even the government says that you should be doing a week. I mean, that's just like I've never I've never hit that before. Never done that. All the exercise that I do is completely low impact. And then I went to a Pilates class and I was wearing it and I burnt like seven calories or something. Look, look, women, women have been. maybe unfairly sold pilates being the final boss answer it's not the final answer like it's a it's not it's something to do for strength but it's in no way um there's there's no way that you only burnt seven calories in a pilates class unless you're like a pilates master that's bullshit no way she's she's been doing pilates since she was in fucking middle school i believe it but also i did i'm glad you said that because i saw in the background earlier it looked like you were wearing a pilates grippy sock yes exactly i am actually Whoa, that's, that's incredible that you, we have the same one. That's why it caught my eye. Yes. And you can see that my foot says bar core on it. And that's exactly what happened. I walked, yeah, I walked to the, to the bar core session, which was, yeah, it was a little, it was, I actually went, yeah, I went to a cardio bar class. And then I went for like a little, I went for a little Italian meal afterwards in, in the grippy socks and this. ridiculous gym outfit that I've got. I just can't figure out how to look normal and cool for the gym in any way. There's no reason to. I can give you some advice if you're open to it. I can give you some advice. I know what Chris was going to say. To me, if you're trying to perform like an athlete, you need to feel and look like an athlete. Don't I just look quite dorky with these socks? I mean... I have to be honest with you. I have to be honest with you. You do look a little bit dorky, and I think this is constructive, and I think we can work through this. I think it's a cool, normal outfit, but I don't know if that's a fitness outfit. It's wrong. Chris wants you to wear head-to-toe black Nike Pro. No, not even. If there's a brand that you feel a particular kinship with in the athletic realm, yeah, exactly. You buy it head-to-toe, shoes, socks.

leggings, sports bra, shirt, hat, sweatband, and you're going to feel like you're ready to go do something. And sometimes that helps with the mindset. You know what, Chris, I agree. Instead of like this random sort of brandy mouth, tank top that I'm wearing. And I like think this, I think the sports bra is honestly like my mom's that I sold for like 10 years ago. And the grippy socks. a crazy well the grip the grippy socks are an interesting color too it's like a sand you know is what it looks like which i think i would go black or white personally but that's i don't want to but i well i i'm i'm gonna disagree because i feel like there's there's something cool and there's something to be said about the person in the class who's dressed the the most random just thrown together shit but they're clearly dominating the class and in very good shape and doing a better job than everyone else who's wearing $5,000 worth of fitness gear. No, that's also true, Jason. That's also true. But if she's going through it and looking for answers, I'm just trying to provide. That's all. Pro gear, pro attitude. No, I really want to be the kind of girl that just has the one brand outfit and also just have it on hand. Because I think that's more of the problem that I have is the organization and what the spare room in my apartment looks like. It's tough. The Chanel gets in the way. And I know I have a similar problem and it's like, where do you put it? You know what I mean? It's hard. It's just so much. It's hard. So much. I know that your Instagram DMs are probably... flooded with thousands of messages every day. So if you're one of these brands, a Nike, an On Running, Lululemon, whatever it may be, send Chris or I a message and we will, because all these brands will send you boxes full of stuff. We'll communicate. Yeah, Chris. Chris, you can pick out an outfit. This is kind of my life's calling, actually, and not to go gay best friend mode again, but it does unfortunately feel like that's what we're doing. If you're asking me to be your fitness stylist, the answer is a thousand times yes. There is nothing I would fucking love for.

did j crew do um sportswear or no uh sort of but not fully like not yeah like kind of tenniswear yeah kind of or just like there's stuff it's more for men because i work on men so i'm more familiar with it but there are things that work for that Um, but I'm a pretty diehard, like head to toe Nike. I think it has to do with like my age and how Nike was just so ubiquitous growing up. Um, I equate it with like a certain level of athlete. So I try to mimic that. Um, but I haven't gotten there yet and you know, we're going to keep striving for greatness and I'm sure you are too. Yeah, I definitely am. I believe in you and I believe in me too. I've done some good things for my health reasons. I've been a vapor for like eight years or something, and I just got hypnotized. Sorry, you said you've been a vapor? Yeah, a vapor. Okay, so you were vaping for eight years, and then you got hypnotized out of the vape? Yeah, I mean, the first time was at Lola's Wine Bar, but it wasn't really... It wasn't really a hypnotizer. Are you talking about the West Hollywood wine bar that's only for women? Yes. There's a period where Alex is going there once a week to meet a different friend. I'm like, are there any men there? And she's like, I've never seen any. I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, this was like this guy from Hawaii who's... sort of like known to I hadn't had sessions with him but I was somehow at this dinner with him and he was with he was with another guy who was like one of his disciples and clicking his fingers at him and this guy was like having this crazy sort of like episodes at the table. By the way, it was so fucking embarrassing. What was it? Oh, my God. What the fuck? Another bottle of orange. This is getting weird. Another bottle of orange over here. It was crazy, but I really wanted to give up that time, and I just gave him my vapes and had him click his fingers. And it worked for a second, but then it didn't work that much. So I did go to a proper...

I went to a proper hypnotist like a couple of weeks ago, and it was so strange because I really went under, and then I don't even remember him saying anything about vaping at all. Like I kind of came to, and I feel like I fell asleep, but maybe I was just being hypnotized. Well, you're in like purgatory, I think, like between awake and sleep, so that the information is able to like seep in, I think, is how it works. Because there's a bunch of people I know in L.A. have gone to Hypnotist to quit smoking. There's a guy that everybody has gone to. And it's worked on everyone that I've ever spoken to. Did it work for you? It's completely worked. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's completely worked. I don't have any desire to it. Would you have a cheeky regular cigarette? No, because I did that before and it just ruined everything. And then I was smoking real cigarettes. I just felt so disgusting, and I was constantly wanting to shower, and I hate the smell of it. And it's funny, because I never really was a proper smoker, even before vaping. Like, I did a movie years ago, and one of the producers had just invested in Juul. And so he was like, hey, kids. He's like, you guys should try this. You guys like mangoes? Yeah. He's like, try this. And like eight years later, it's like, I'm probably like. $50,000 worth of... Oh, my goodness. What was your Juul flavor? Just tobacco. Just tobacco. Classic. But Juul is really... It's got a lot of nicotine in it as well. It's really addictive. R.I.P. Juul. Yeah, R.I.P. Juul. It was a good ride. That's hard. Well, I'm proud of you for quitting it. There is something amazing about smoking indoors and not having your house smell like shit. But it can go too far when you're smoking in bed and waking up in the middle of the night and taking a hit when you look at your phone. That's never happened to me, but I've heard horror stories like that where people just wake up and hit the jewel. I sleep with it in my hand and wake up with it in my hand. There was one day that I woke up with it.

I woke up with it, and I was like, oh, what's on my back? And I look in the mirror, and I slept on it in my back, and the jewel had imprinted itself into my back. And every single crevice and detail was... That sounds almost like performance art. That's too perfect, but I... I can understand. Yeah, it was brilliant. Yeah, hopefully Richard Kern was there to take a photo of it or something like that. I actually did take a photo of it. I feel like I tweeted it. I think so. That's good material. It would be quite far back, yeah. Well, last question, and you don't have to answer this, but you brought up Ambien earlier, and we asked this question to some of our guys. Oh, you're going to ask me the drug. Top three favorite prescription pills of all time. Oh, God. I mean, the only one I've really... The only one that's really sort of, like, taken me was the Ambien. Okay. But it's also, like, the cause of a lot of damage. Like, you go on Net Forte and order, like, $800 worth of, like, thongs and stuff. If that's the worst thing... I have, like... I actually can see something. I can see something, right? Like a... a rose quartz mask or something. You bought under the influence. I did something the other day. I'm just going to tell you stupid things. I did something the other day. It's bad. It's still happening. I have to get better at it. I don't do it all the time, but I definitely do sometimes need it. It's just bad when you don't actually get into bed and you stay up. because it's just like shoppy shoppy dive and you go on tiktok and you start buying uh accessories for your air fire yeah exactly or you like take it you kind of like take a portrait and then you like kaleidoscope it and you think like this is Cool. I'm going to go. This is cool. You've woken up, yeah, you've woken up and it's got like 20 likes and everyone's like, what? Like, is she good? Is she good? So Ambien either makes you spend $800 on salt lamps and thongs or it makes you create very bad art and convince yourself that the world needs to see this right now at three in the morning. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, that. Have you ever taken Modafinil?

Modafinil. That sounds really familiar. You're giving us the legal name. Do you know the street name? No. For that drug. Modafinil is a non-amphetamine central nervous system stimulant with wakefulness-promoting properties. Okay, so speed. Got it. Got it. Oh, no. Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, no. You're like, never mind. I've only heard of it. Someone gave me some Modafinil. Yeah, I have tried. I have tried Modafinil. It wasn't a good experience. I think it's for truck drivers. Oh, yeah, definitely. It's a stimulant to treat narcolepsy. I'm not putting that as one of my things. That's not a thing. Basically, that's it. That's all that's ever really... I appreciate that. Maybe a little Valium, a little Xanax. Of course. That's not really been there. What about you guys? What drugs have you taken? You name it, sweetie. What do you got? We should put on the kettle if we're going to have that combo. Put on the kettle. Unless you have some weird British stuff I've never heard of, maybe, but for the most part, we've covered it. It's way harder to get, even to get sleeping pills here. I don't know. In LA, it's literally like, I'll text the doctor and I'll tell him my code to my apartment. It will be on the table when I get in. Like, that's the kind of relationship. That's the good life, baby. You make it sound so cool. America rocks. That doesn't happen here. America rocks. Yeah, it's cool. I can't wait. It's cool. It's cool. It's great. Thank you for joining us today on How Long Gone. It was a pleasure. Thank you so much. It was overdue, so I'm glad we made it happen. We'll come see you play when you're in New York or LA next time. Thank you for taking the time. Check you out. Thank you guys so much. Enjoy the hotel. Good luck on the air con. I can't wait for you to pick out my outfit. I'll let you know because I guarantee you someone's going to get in touch with me about this. No joke, so we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Thank you, Chris. Thank you. My pleasure. Talk to you soon. Bye, guys.

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