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326. - Chris & Jason

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One-on-one episode recorded live and uncut from Glendale. Jason is under the weather, so his brain isn't cooking so hot, but his voice is slightly sexier. We chat about the dos and don'ts of putting stickers on your car, Lil Huddy's G Wagon, waiting in line for food, Naengmyeon, being pot-committed, the ice cream museum is so much more than just ice cream, older people are allowed to say whatever they want to, the death of the streetwear resale market, Chris predicts the return of juice drinking, we plan our Coachella trip, double stacked Phillipp Pleins, trance music, Ryan Cabrera, Netflix's Ultimatum, the Rimowa Porsche party, where do these LA people come from, being sick as a child vs. being an adult, if adult men aren't allowed to be sick then they're driven to a life of deviance, Jacob Elordi's pearl necklace, why female celebrities are all more famous then their male counterparts, soccer chicks, and we get to the bottom of why Chris can't take his shoes off and get cozy on the plane, even in the Delta One pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. Under the weather. Jason finally has COVID. It didn't stop me from coming over and locking myself into a small room with him in a sauna because I'm not afraid. Since it's not real, you won't really? No, it's impossible to catch it, really, I think. The window's cracked, so I think we're fine. I did catch it, but it is impossible for strong Americans to catch it. Someone like me, yeah. Actually, I saw a guy that said, this is crazy. I couldn't get a picture of it. Last night on Highland, I saw a nice truck with, of course, the Punisher skull with the Blue Lives Matter stripe on the left-hand side of the back windshield, right-hand side. A vaccinate this with a middle finger as the eye in the decal. Okay. I was actually thinking about this as a gag for you, but I'll give it here now just because I don't think I'll actually do it. But I want to get you one of those. decals made that that has the instagram logo and then your handle next to it for your truck i really thought that would be funny if i put one of those on and you just you kind of like don't notice for a little bit maybe yeah just tastefully on the on the side window laser cut i feel like that's popular in your neighborhood i think you'd fit in but the vaccinate this reminded me to do that uh yeah that's so because there's there's like there's always the whole thing of like all right i have a car

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And maybe will I put a sticker on it or not? And then, like, the sticker on the car spectrum is very wide of, like, one little tasteful thing versus, you know, completely covered. And then, you know, I haven't had a sticker on my car since I was in high school. So, like, the thought of me putting even just, like, a tiny... A tasteful decal. A tasteful decal. Maybe, like, one of those nice, like, kind of line drawings of Bernie's head. You know what I mean? Just kind of one of those. Even this sticker here, it's just our artwork. It's the blue and green square with no words on it. It's just two colors. If I were to put that sticker on my car, somewhere someone would see it and be like, oh, that's them jeans. And if somebody hated me, they would be like, oh, that's them jeans' car. I'm going to pee on the door handle. They're peeing in the bed. I'm going to cut. I'm going to pull out a knife. I think I forgot about the danger element. So I guess I won't do that. Well, that's the thing. That's how funny it is. Some people are so desperate for attention or followers or something. They're like, I'm willing to put, you know, basically. Well, Jason, the guy with my personal information, the guy with the lowered eclipse that has a exhaust issue is probably he works overnights at Vons. So I don't I don't know if he's worried about his safety quite as much as maybe. someone like you, someone of your stature. But you can have enemies and have not a lot of followers. This reminds me, also last night, I pull up behind this G-Wagon, black, matte black G-Wagon. You saw a lot of great cars yesterday. Matte black G-Wagon with these funny colored stripes. And then I look, and there's a little hoodie emblem on the spare tire. And then we pull up next to it. And there's a Lil Huddy emblem on the side of the car. And I look at who's driving. You guessed it, Lil Huddy. I did a honk twice and wave to my man Hudson. Could you let me know what a Lil Huddy emblem looks like? Honestly, I don't think this is on purpose, but it is adjacent to the Punisher skull. I don't think that's on purpose, but his graphic design team is probably too young to even know. Okay. It's that skull. You see the skull? Yeah, I see the skull. That's it. So it had that on both sides, driver, passenger, and back.

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And you recognize that logo from Lil Huddy? Well, it says his name in it. Got it. Okay. So that was a giveaway? I mean, I love Lil Huddy, but I don't love him enough to – Well, when you said emblem, I was like, does he have his own unique logo that doesn't involve words or letters that you were able to distinguish? I wish I had that kind of understanding of Huddy's graphic design language, but luckily for both of us, he spelled it out literally L-I-L-H-U-D-D-Y. That's cool, man. Look at this sticker that you can get. I'm a Lil Huddy girl would look also great on the Nissan. Lil Huddy, that name is so disturbing to me. I don't know anything about Lil Huddy. I've never heard his music. His name is Chase Hudson. So, I mean, the thing to know about him is that he... It just makes my skin feel weird just saying that word. He's a superstar. Well, I discovered this. I said this on Twitter, but I discovered that Maude's son, who is the fiancé of... Avril. Avril. was in a band called Scary Kids Scaring Kids, which was like a terrible, like, Warped Tour pop punk band. And Lil Huddy went from being just like a hot YouTuber and like TikTok guy to also being like, that's right, Travis Barker plays drums on my song too. And it's just like... How bad is the music though? Honestly, there's one song, the single is him, Travis Barker on drums, guy from All American Rejects. Co-wrote it, so it just sounds like Move Along by the All-American Rejects, which is a smash. So it's pretty good. I think we've put that song on. We've talked about it before when the reality show was on, when the TikToker Hype House show was on. But, yeah, it was an interesting day in cars yesterday. I don't know if you saw any cool cars. Yesterday was Saturday. Where did I see any cool cars? Not really. You're busy waiting in line four hours for hot soup. Cold soup. Oh, at least it was cold. I went to go get some cold soup. There's two places in Koreatown that has a great cold soup. Nemmyung, I believe is how it's. I butchered the pronunciation, of course. I have no pot to piss in, but I felt butchered. Nemmyung. Nemmyung. It's a cold noodle with a kind of a clear fermented broth.

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Lore says that it may have a little Sprite or 7-Up in there. Really? Is that like when they rub the ribs with some Dr. Pepper? It's a little bit, but the broth, it has a natural fermentation to it, so that's kind of cool and refreshing. It adds a little effervescence to it, and I think they just spike it with a little 7-Up or Sprite to kind of gild the lily, push it over the... That's actually very cool. That's interesting. And it adds a little sweetness, rounds out the flavor. But it has this weird addicting quality to it where on a hot day, you're just slurping those noodles. You're picking up the bowl. You're taking it to the dome. Taking it to the dome. And when you contrast that with some sizzling Korean barbecue beef. Oh, baby. And you get a hot flavor blast, salty meat, and then a cool vegetarian noodle with some raw. cucumber shavings. This is a yin and yang TJ's world. And it just, the wheel keeps on spinning. What kind of appetizers? Are there appetizers here? Are you having like a spring roll variety? Is there like a salad variety? I'm glad you asked. There's all that and more. At a Korean restaurant, you get 17 appetizers. Oh, I know that, but I mean, I know about that. We didn't have to order any appetizers. Okay, so you're just having the 17 little bowls. Yeah. You can get, at the other place, The most popular place is called Yuchun, and oftentimes you get dumplings as your appetizer. So this is the place that you said the waiting list was 50 people. Yeah, and we went and then said nah, and we went to a different place called Corner Place. But you're saying to me that, I just want to be clear, there's people willing to wait. What do you think the time is? If you pull up and you're 51, what are they telling you the time is going to be? They're not even talking to you. Sure. Like there's a piece of paper on a clipboard and you go and write it down and then you have to stand around because they'll yell your name. So it's a two hour. I would guess two hours. I would guess two hours. So people are waiting two hours for cold noodles. That's right. And it does sound good. Don't get me wrong. No, I know what you mean. But I think we have a problem. Society has a problem. Okay. I think we have a bunch, but I'd like to hear one about noodles. I just don't think that, I don't think we should reward, nothing is good enough.

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to wait that long for. There's no part of me, I don't care how good it is, how many people have told me it's good, where I'm willing to happily wait for over, I don't know, 20 minutes for anything? Yeah, I think there's something to be said about when you're in the mood for something and you have to check that box and you're like, I guess you could call it pot committed to use a poker term. Yes, is this, Thank you for that. You already have so much invested in it, you have to see your way through it. But is that what this is, or is this also like, I have to get the flick? Oh, yeah, I mean, there is a lot of that as well. Okay, because Noodles photograph really well. I kind of love seeing a nice bowl of water with... beige noodles in it and the cucumber does give you coming for my instagram story photo no no i would never come for you or your food photos i think you do a great job of kind of documenting your meals and sharing that with your followers but i don't i just i just yeah i mean this was a bowl this is a bro that looks like shit this is a bowl of ice cubes and then asian pears floating in it that looks gross hot day bro that looks like you're in a hospital That looks worse than the food at Cedars. Look, if it's a hot day, you come in. I don't care how hot it is. You sit down, they hand you a bowl full of ice cubes and thinly sliced Asian pear, and you just eat these ice-cold Asian pear slices. That is refreshing. You know what's refreshing? Water. And you know what I don't have to wait on? Water. Oh, come on. I don't have to write my name down on a list. No, I just don't think. I think we need to stop rewarding these restaurants with our thirst. I think that's what it is. We're playing into the game, and they're winning, and we're paying for it, not only monetarily, but mentally. You say our thirst? Is it the thirst for this yummy food, or is it for the photograph? It's the thirst to be a part of something that doesn't actually matter. Well, we've talked about this a lot with our friend of the show, David Cho, and he has said that Asian people, not to stereotype, his words, not ours.

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They might not only not mind waiting in line, but they might enjoy waiting in line. Well, how do you, white boy, how do you kind of justify your willingness? I didn't. We drove past the line and went to a different place. I was with my Asian life partner. She went in, wrote the name down, and she was like, uh-uh. I would agree that she doesn't like lines, but there's an unfortunate memory etched into my small brain where she made me wait in line for three hours for a mediocre meal in the suburbs on Christmas Day. She was pot committed. She was pot committed to the point of I was going to have her 5150'd. I was concerned. Well, that's the thing. Her mental well-being based on her behavior. You get it into your mind. You wake up and you're like, I really want this one. I really want Louisiana-style gumbo. I really want Cacio e Pepe, whatever it is. Exactly. Then I call my travel agent and I say, take me to Louisiana or take me to Puglia. I don't need to. I'm not driving to Koreatown or to another suburb to wait in line with these plebs. When I could just hop on the jet. And I'll hit gumbo and then have a beignet after and be at home in time for bed, mare style. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, sort of our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world... writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools.

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to sacrifice an enjoyable time or you're like i'm going to do this thing it might involve some waiting in line sure and i'm gonna it's like when you go to disneyland you have to make that agreement i know look i saw the pictures of you waiting in line at the museum of ice cream and i i wasn't shocked because i know you love kind of an experience yeah because it's more than ice cream bro i stop talking shit you told me that and i believe you and i think that the I understand. It's like only one little part of it. You're like not really seeing the full picture, bro. No, I understand what you mean, and I'm mostly joking. But I think that people who do that are having a better time, perhaps, because you and I were just like, let's do this one thing that looks good, and if there's any friction or strife involved, we're out. I don't like food enough. for that like i i'm not gonna have a a levitating no do experience from eating anything like it's not going to like stick with me and be like damn that was absolutely worth it this is amazing it's just not gonna happen because i've eaten at these places to an extent not not obviously to the level of someone like you but like i've been to places i have no business going You know what I mean? Yeah. Where it's like, damn, this is good. And then I go to sleep and that's the last time. How long would you wait in line to have your palace Calvin Klein zine photo Alistair photo book autographed? I would say that was with love. That was a I made him write Chris Black, which he thought was pretty funny. I would say funny. That's your literal name. No, because he's like full name. I'm like, yeah, bro. Take off your Stoney. If you have a problem with it, let's step outside. Chief, put down the Mamiya. We'll see who's really about it. Yeah, fisticuffs and then what if we kissed a bit? Well, you look nice with the black eye, I have to say. No, I would say I waited approximately like eight minutes for that, nine minutes. But that was also more of a social thing. Okay, let's say. I waited in line longer for Juergen to sign my. That's what I was just going to hypothetically say. 20 minutes. Okay, so is 20 your max for a Juergen selfie? You and Juergen. That wasn't even a selfie, by the way. I had Kobe hiding in the cut. Boom.

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You hired your own photographer. I hired my own, yeah. Photographer model's own. Okay, I think he's ready now. He's ready. He's ready. You're going to tell her. He's like, who is this fucking idiot? Oh, so you didn't use the light meter before when you had time? Unfortunately, it was a run-and-gun style shoot. But that does prove that, obviously, we're all willing to wait in line for something that we deem meaningful, which I definitely am not above that. And it's a payoff. But I would not wait in line for more than that. And also, those events at Dashwood, part of the fun is that it's like you're in line with people you know, kind of. Whereas when you're at a restaurant in Koreatown, everyone's neck is craning looking at their phone, and they look up every five minutes pissed off. It's a great point. The vibe is not great, whereas the vibe in line at that was fun. I'm dapping up the homies. I'm enjoying a nice, cold San Pellegrino. But as we get older, are we going to be less and less interested in waiting in lines? Because I think when you're old, you're just like, yeah, I just eat breakfast at the gas station. I don't give a fuck. No, there's a certain level of disengagement and uncaring that the olds do. They give us gems because they talk wild and they don't give a shit because what are you going to do? I can't wait until I'm at that. I mean, because there's the good parts about it like that where you're like, this old motherfucker really doesn't give a shit. The liver failure and that kind of stuff isn't great. But there's the like, I don't care so much that I'm just going to like flatulate in public and like all that stuff. We're like, that's a little, you know, let's keep it together, guys. No, but I think you're allowed. I think there's a certain allowance for spicier speech. As you get older, I think the, yeah, waiting in line. Pop Pop's setting his ways. Yeah, we're not going to see Gramps, you know, waiting in line for a Nike quick strike. That's for sure. You know, I don't know. Gramps is in the Sprinter van because he's not going to be out there with his walker the whole time. No, he's blowing down with the homies in the van. He's actually, you know what, Gramps is paying someone to wait in line at Flight Club. You know what I mean? While he blows down in the van, he's got cash.

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Just imagine getting so high and then buying Nikes. That's got to be sick. I've done it many times in my life. It's pretty cool. It's like, yeah, what if you smoked so much weed and ate these nachos? Well, that's the beauty. I think it's chilled out. I think it's chilled out a little bit now. But when Supreme was really peaking and it was still on Lafayette, it was like in front of McNally, like on Prince, was like an open air market of guys, white vans. Back door open. They've just bought shit, and these guys have thousands of dollars and hundreds, and it's all happening very fast. A guy pulls up in the insanity with the jersey plates. He hops out. He says, you got the North Face? He said, yeah, how much? He said, a thousand. He's like, no problem. Boom. All afternoon. It's crazy. Now it's on the web. Now it's on the world, but it's over, from what I've been told. What's over? The resale thing is not, you can't really make any money. You can with collaborations. Maybe. Really? But, like, the era of, like, I can buy a Supreme T-shirt that's not a box logo and then sell it for a lot more money is kind of over. Do you think it's going to be over forever, or we're just a slump in the market? No, as we transition away from streetwear as the predominant trend, I think that it's going to wane. It's diversified. Well, it's just like I don't think that there's just the demand is different, you know? Like the demand is just going to change. I also think that Supreme is smart. They're probably making more, you know? Yeah. Because they don't make any money in the resale, as you know. Unless they're reselling it themselves. Well, I wouldn't want to claim any sort of – Do other brands do that sometimes? I would never want to think that maybe there is backdooring happening, which is the industry term. I wouldn't. That's crazy. Everyone backdoors, right? I wouldn't. I mean, if a Chinese guy showed up and said, I got 10,000, how many Union Jordans do you have? I would definitely give him a box. You know what I mean? But they do that with music, tickets. They do it with concert tickets closed. What else do they backdoor? I think anything, really. Human trafficking, of course. Human trafficking, of course, is a popular topic. But I don't, I mean. Drugs.

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Definitely drugs. Well, drugs are just a backdoor operation in general. You get those, and you buy them, and then you sell them for more. That's right. You get a little profit. So that is a trend that is fading out. The streetwear resale market. I mean, no, it's still massive, obviously. Sorry to our friend of the show, Tim. Sorry. Big Twin has unfortunately taken a job. But a trend that was down and is now up that you have noticed. Juice trend. And a tweet that you said. I see a return of the juice trend, all caps. Just in time for summer. Lots of sugar, dot, dot, dot. But do you. Okay, so sips tea. It's actually, I just think that there is. What about green juice? It's all, it's just like. Like a dropout style green juice. I mean, that is, I think it could be a dropout. No, there's this guy in New York, Tom's Juice. And it's all really well done, and he delivers it on his bike, and it's very cool, and it comes in a nice glass bottle. It's all great. And he's been doing it for a couple years, maybe three or four, maybe longer. And I'm like, I'm happy for Tom, because I think Tom's about to boom, because I'm seeing a return of the juice on Instagram stories. Because there was a time where the juice market... It was a little bit like, we don't do that anymore. Was it replaced by something? Was it replaced by smoothies? I think people figured out juice cleanses weren't actually healthy. And I think that it was like, oh, and then Gwyneth Paltrow stops talking about it, and then people just stopped doing it. But is it, yeah, I mean, I guess, is it only a trend that has waned? I think that the reality is juice tastes good. So I think if you're having one because it tastes good, that's fine. Juice is yummy. Yeah. Nothing I love more than a fresh-squeezed OJ, but it has to be a treat. I've been on my OJ in the mornings lately. It's too good. Luckily, Joe Holder let me know that I'm wrong, and that's fine. Well, everyone has said that juices, it's got more sugar than a Coca-Cola. You can't do it. You can't do it. But then our whole lives, the healthiest people seem to drink a lot of juice. I mean, as long as it's fresh juice and not like...

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like apple juice from a can or like welch's grape or something but you know like real actual fresh juice sure you know i just i just think of something like miami hard bodies slurping it down no of course it feels very 90s in a cool way i think that's part of the return of it is it is but i cds and now juice exactly but i also but i also think that it's like i think it's more if you're doing it as a thing to enjoy and it tastes good and you're not tricking yourself into thinking sucking down a juice every morning is healthy, then I think you're fine. But I still see the losers ordering a 32-ounce celery juice at Whole Foods. I'm like, bro, you're drinking a 32-ounce celery juice? I mean, that's just water. Yeah, but it tastes bad. I kind of like it on the low. I'm not surprised. If you drink it passively, like, while you're typing or, like, reading or something like that, you can get there. I understand liking stuff that tastes bad. Like, I kind of get it. But I just, I mean, juice is great. I like it. I just think it's funny that that trend, I feel like it dipped. You would agree, though, that it dipped. Oh, it definitely dipped. It definitely dipped. And I'm kind of happy to see it back, the Renaissance. And we will always, of course, see that first in Los Angeles where people love juice, you know, maybe more than anywhere. Actually, Carolyn, since I've been having orange juice in the mornings, she's been cutting it with water. So I think maybe that's the sweet spot compromise between healthy and unhealthy juice world. RIP. RIP, man. RIP. But yeah, you pour a glass of OJ halfway. With a little seltzer or regular? Either or. On a weekday. Then it's just an orangina at that point. Well, I mean, you're... I think that because of La Croix and Seltzer having such a huge boom in the last five years or so, we're realizing that we don't need everything to taste so strong and powerfully. Speak for yourself. I want my flavors to be extreme, and you know I don't drink flavored water. I know, I know. But you used to go to the bar and have like a cranberry and vodka or Jack and Coke or a screwdriver, whatever it may be, and it's just so...

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It's just so strong. It just hits you over the head. But if you get a highball glass, two fingers of OJ, two fingers of Goose, and then just fill it to the top with seltzer water. It tastes like orange enough, but it's just crisp. And it's a word that I don't like to use, but I heard it this weekend. It's crushable. Damn, Jason really going back to his Orange County roots. No, I mean, I understand what you're saying, but I think the return of juice is fine. I just think people need to be conscious of the sugar intake. Yeah, just be conscious of your sugar intake. But I got to say, I mean, the pounds are slipping off of me the more juice I drink. And I know that there's no correlation or relation whatsoever. It's just pure coincidence. It's probably this big wooden box you're sitting next to right now. Yeah, that could be it. I have to run, you know, because I'm poor and can't afford this, so I have to run to lose my weight. Well, you're cash poor. It's harder on my body, but it's more satisfying in some ways. Oh, that's interesting, actually. So, like, you get some pleasure out of doing the paint. Yesterday, I felt... Hey, man, I've been working out. Yesterday, after I ran, though, because it was, like, it's, like, hot. It was hot. I haven't, like... Summer heat was back. Yeah. And I hadn't run in that because of my injury, and it's just been not summer, obviously. Sure. But I finished, and I was like, uh-oh. Hit different. I'm seeing God. And then a friend of the show, former guest Rory from the Wall Street Journal was like, damn, I just saw you running down Beverly. It's really a moment for me to be in L.A. and see that. Also, a friend of the show, Austin Withers, sent me a, he found this vintage killer shirt, original killer shirt, and it fits. Oh, wonderful. So I ran in that yesterday to let people know that I have great taste not only in exercise but also in music. To have a Grail shirt like that and you're like, that's just my fitness shirt. Well, I don't think people, you know, it's not going to. You shouldn't wear it to dinner tonight. It's not going to go quite as high on Grail as maybe some of my other shirts. But that's just because the world doesn't have great taste. They haven't caught up with you and your sensibilities. To be fair, the killer's original logo, not great.

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It's not the Cure Wish. Are any of the Killers logos great? No. No, but this is the only show. That's fine. There's a lot of legendary bands that have bad logos. I mean, I know you love the ACDC logo, but it's not one of my favorites. Okay, iconic. I don't know why I've always hated ACDC. One of the least cool bands of all time. I think it's an age thing. I mean, is it though? But didn't they headline Coachella? Didn't we talk about this? Yeah, within the last... Five years. Maybe like 2017 or 18. Can you imagine? Like during the EDM. Our life has evolved. Like humans have evolved in so much since 2018. Like there's no way that would happen. They're not even on the 100 artists short list. No. You wake up one day, snap of the fingers, blink of an eye, and everyone that was like an old guy is like geriatric. Like you have to spoon feed them. Their dinner. Can I ask you a question about our Coachella Artist Pass pickup? Please. I'm an open book. Me and the Golden Voice team would love to field any questions. It's just based on what we're planning to do. That's right. It's going to be an interesting pickup. We drive to the Indian Wells. The window is between 9 and 10 a.m. Is that right? I didn't read that. Yeah, exactly. What? So the window on Friday is between 9 and 10 a.m. So that means we'll need to leave Los Angeles at, I don't know, 6? That can't be. That is B. I'm going to follow up with a lighthearted email, not sternly worded. Can they not just mail us the artist pass? Do I have to do the same shit? That doesn't mean that. So you go to Indian Wells. That's where you have tennis games for our listeners at home who don't know. I like how you call a tennis game like Drake. He was wearing the chain at the tennis game. At the tennis game. Yeah. He's with Serena, though, so. Damn, bro. Goals. But, like, you go there at 9 a.m., you get your ticket. And then we got two hours to kill before I have to see some fucking... And nobody wants to be at Coachella first person in the door. Maybe I do. Maybe we do. But, like, I've been... The only reason why I've had to be at all these places, these festivals, at 11, 30 a.m.

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Is it because you're playing at 11.30 a.m.? It's because I'm playing at 11.35. So we're thinking you're kind of going to get behind the decks and kind of be playing while people come in, if that works for you. You're going to be the first. So it's like a very important role. You're going to kind of set the stage, set the mood for the whole rest of the show from 11.35 until 11.55. And we just want you to be natural. Do your thing, whatever you're feeling. Whatever you're feeling is totally cool with us. Okay, well, we'll figure this out, but it seems problematic. That's bad. We're going down for one day, so it's already going to be pretty extreme because I'm going to have to drive you back on drugs. I'm going to drive us there. But on the way back, it's going to be Chris for himself. I'll stay awake. I said I'd stay awake. Because you're doing coke in the car or because you can just... Physically power through. I'll physically power. I'm not going to do Coke in the desert. Something about doing Coke at Coachella seems wrong to me. Interesting. I don't want to do snortables. I want to do pills. Like a classic pressed pill, you mean? Yeah. So you're going to be on a Mitsubishi double stack? A Philip Pline. Double stack Philip Pline. Royal blue Philip with a double P. So have you looked into where to get that? I'm starting to put my feelers out, yeah. Okay, so does that mean? So does this mean that we're, like, not to incriminate ourselves, but is this something you wanted to bring with you, or is this something you think you'll be able to pick up? I'll bring it with me. Great. I'll bring ecstasy with me. So I'll be driving in my car that's registered to me, and you will be holding. I mean, they say the word keister, that gets thrown around. Sure. You'll do whatever it takes to get this ecstasy into your body and into your bloodstream because seeing Phoebe Bridger's not on ecstasy is crazy. Yeah, the police say, do you have any drugs on your person? And I'll say, no, it's in my person. That's cool. Yeah, I got to be on ecstasy because otherwise I won't be able to tolerate all the stopping chats, the hey, the ho. Can you power through ecstasy in a normalcy state? What do you mean by that exactly?

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Can you operate as the TJ we know and love, even under the influence of the double-stack Phillip Pline? I mean, you might have to be more specific. Operate as the TJ. Like, will I turn into, like, a gum? An idiot. Like a teeth-chewing thing? Will I have to hear a lot of conspiracy theories on that two-and-a-half-hour drive home while I'm coming down from my hairy high? No, I think the only problem you're going to run into driving me, because, like, obviously my girlfriend will be passed out snoring in the back. She's not a trooper. I'm a trooper. But you're going to be driving, coming down from your hairy high, which is a new song I do like. You said you didn't like it that much. It's not good, man. It's not good. I'll listen to it 15 more times and try to get into it. What a strange world that I like a hairy song and you don't. I just don't like it. I just think it's boring. It has a little fortet vibe to it. But I just listen to every new song and I'm like, this is boring. Yeah, we listened to new music Friday on Spotify, driving around over the weekend, and my girlfriend was like, all new music is bad. The Maggie Rogers song is growing on me a little bit. It ain't growing on me. But it's not what I wanted. But speaking of music, the problem you're going to run into is me and the aux. I'm going to take you to a place that you don't want to go. So I'm going to hear a TJ, Apple Music, iPhone, Sunrise set. Spotify. you know, some Chris stuff to keep me going. You'll listen to Jason's stuff that's going to keep you going. I don't know if you know what that is. I know you're a selector, a legendary selector. There'll be some trance songs that you're going to be like, you know what, actually this one's pretty good. No, I love to admit when a trance song is pretty good, but the word and genre trance when trying to drive straight on the highway late at night doesn't seem... Interesting. So you don't want to be in a trance-like state while you're powering five tons of German steel. No. And also, the drive home from Coachella, have you done it before? No. Oh, it gets windy. Just seasonally, the Santa Anas are picking up? No, just on the corridor there, that's where all the windmills are. Yeah, of course. So for some reason, I don't know why, but when you're driving there in the daytime, you don't notice it, but at nighttime on the way home,

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The gusts will come kind of east to west while you're driving. This is fucked. So we have Coachella, Weekend 2, Day 1 only. And then we have Just Like Heaven, where I get to experience a TJ set. Yeah, Just Like Heaven Festival. A few tickets left. Low ticket alert. Come see Them Jeans. So I'm going to see Spiritualized in L.A. This is too much live music for me. I want to see Waxahachie. My festival is not until May. I know, but it's like, isn't it the first week in May or early May? I think it's the 12th, something like that. I mean, that's a lot for me, bro. I got to see Haim and Waxahachie. This is fucking me up. I need earplugs. Yeah, I don't want to see live music no more. I don't want to see live music no more. Shout out to Makinen. We should get Makinen on the show. I could do it. For sure. What do you think he's up to? Is he low-key in the studio with Majid Jordan or something? He did being gay, doing gay stuff, having a fun time. I think he makes 100 songs a week. Does he low-key write? I don't think so. I think he's just on a spiritual journey. Did you see the tweet I posted this morning about Ryan Cabrera's wedding? I did. And you instructed the reader to dive deeper, and I chose not to. Well, it's just everything is better. Like yellow card played. And the way he met his WWE wife is that there was a rumor that they were dating, and so they just linked up. And then they got married a year later. So Ryan Cabrera, he was the singer who had the hair. On the way down. He had the hair. He had the hair. He dated Ashley Simpson, though, famously. That's right. I remember a friend of the show, Adrian Dizza, in Miami. Do you remember this story? No. When I was down in Miami hanging out with him, he would be like, oh, Ryan Cabrera. He was like. He was like the annoying chick that you had to always avoid. Did he live in Miami at some point? He was in Miami at the time, and I remember he was always kind of – it was like the one friend where you're like, oh, hey. Oh, Cabrera's here. Cabrera's here. And I remember one time we pulled up. We were going to go to the club or something like that. We pulled up, and Cabrera was outside, and we had to hide in the car to avoid a Cabrera stop and chat because he would have wanted to like –

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Thank God the Tesla is quiet. You know what I mean? You can pull up to 11. You can sit silently. We put the Tesla in Cabrera mode. Cabrera seems like the kind of friend that would be annoying but always have drugs. Oh, for sure. But there's so many people like that. It's like, hey, guys, I'm really shitty. I got the drugs. And at a certain point, you're like, it's just not worth it. You can take this bag to the bathroom, and I don't care if you come back. I don't know if Cabrera has enough money to do that. I think Cabrera could low-key have money. I feel like Cabrera does weird shit to make money. I don't mean sexual. Are you talking about Cameo? He's definitely doing Cameo. I make almost $35 a day. We started watching that show Ultimatum. Have you seen this? Hosted by Nick and Vanessa Lachey, where couples who are like 24 years old and have been dating for a year, one of the members is like, if we don't get married, I'm out of here. But the premise is absolutely twisted. So all these couples, one person is giving the other one an ultimatum for marriage. Then they just all date each other to see. If they want to a new partner or to continue with their partner. And there's this one chick. So they test drive all the models before you. It's absolutely insane. But then there's this one chick who's like, I don't know what his problem is. I went to college. I got a job. I stay in the gym. I know how to fuck. I was like, damn, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen on reality TV. I mean, there's a lot of people like that. And they're also horrible to hang out with. No, it's just crazy because they're all so young and so like, I need kids. I'm like, I didn't think these people existed anymore. Are you Christian? They exist all over the world except for L.A. and New York. Yeah, that's true. All of America is like that. That's true. We've got nothing else to do. We only made it through episode one, so I'll let you know how it goes. Don't do any further. I love that Nick Lachey and Vanessa Lachey have become like, we're just going to host Netflix.

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dating shows as a couple how much money do you think they make for doing that probably a lot i can't tell the problem is i want them to hate each other but i think they like each other do you think this married couple likes each other yeah but they're like they're like those weird kind of celebrities where you you like you don't think they like each other but then i think it's like pretty authentic but she tells the story when they're introducing the show about how they took a break Okay. And then got married. Look on his face while she's telling people about the break. He's just like, damn, bitch, really? Okay. Like you knew he knew it was coming. This was scripted, but he couldn't hear this little grin on his face. You're just like, oh, this bitch. You took three months off. I don't know what Nicholas was doing. He's like, yeah, the Jessica Simpson thing was hard on us. He's like, yeah, babe, I know. I know it's hard. Anyways, back to the show. I know she's worth $300 million and just lost 100 pounds. But, Vanessa, you're doing too good, baby. Vanessa, you're great, babe. I love you. Our kids are great. You don't need to sell towels at Kmart and have enough money to buy it. Look, I don't mind that you eclipsed Steve Madden as the cheap shoe queen. Like, it's fine. Like, you can do other stuff. Also, the Jessica Simpson luggage line. Nice stuff. Take a second look at it. Take a second look. There's no Remova Porsche, but it's better than you'd think. I forgot about the Remova Porsche event in beautiful West Hollywood Friday night. Last question, and then we'll move on to that. I want a scene report. Does Nick Lachey and Vanessa Lachey, two-part question, do they get booked as a package deal so they get one lump fee? Oh, no. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Or does each person make their cut, and is that dollar amount higher for one person than the other? And do they have to divulge that? I would say for the sake of their marriage, hopefully they don't divulge it. I would say that both people do have agents. They might negotiate separately. Nick's getting more money. And that is the patriarchy, but also he's more famous. So Vanessa gets 15K an episode. He gets 30K an episode, something like that. 20. 20. 22.5.

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$22.50. Maybe more, honestly. I don't know. These shows do well. The expense to make them costs nothing. These bozos that are like, I'm a sales tech from West Virginia. Their agent at CAA ain't going to the map for them. I'll tell you that. In West Virginia, they have neither sales nor tech. That's a good point. Well, they have pharmaceutical sales. Yeah, Alex and I pulled up to the Removo Porsche event, and they'd taken over this building I run by on Melrose, and absolutely insane, a giant warehouse. Full gut run out. There's at least six vintage Porsches in the lower floor. Friend of the show Pedro's on the ones and twos. Shout out to Pedro. They have the Moet flowing. There's a sparkling water open bar. This is good. There's a top floor parking deck with six more vintage Porsches and a separate bar. Each Porsche more cherry than the last, I'm assuming. And they all have like a nice installation of this briefcase murderer suitcase that they collaborated on that there was only 911 of. You can guess why. I know. Isn't that a nice? It was a really well done party. But every party in L.A. And maybe you can relate to this. I just walk in. I'm like, where the fuck did these people come from? In New York, I'm like, this makes sense. I understand why these people are here, whether they're freaks or normies, whatever it is, I understand. L.A., it's like there's 20 people I know. You know what I mean? There's the guys that founded Sweetgreen. They're beautiful wives. Yes, that's right. There's Juliana Salazar. There's a handful. Like when we went to the palace Calvin Klein party, it's like. Every person here, I know why they're here. Exactly, yeah. Like, you're either a skateboarder or a chick that wants to have sex with skateboarders. That is what this party should be. I totally get it. This Ramova Porsche party, there's 20 people I know. You know, I'm on the roof. I see a few more. But then it's like, what? I think, yeah, LA, it's too wide of a kaleidoscope. We need to hone in and focus on something more. But it feels casted. And maybe that's just my Hollywood lens. Okay. But it feels like, oh, okay, you got...

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25 gay guys that have a newish mullet and both ears pierced. They're all over here. You've got the rich, hot gym guys that also wear kind of like Astroworld, Yeezy type shit. And then you have the regular-ish cool people and then the hot chicks. Yeah, I guess the problem with that is it's a bunch of people who all like luggage and nice car, so it's just too broad of a spectrum. But it wasn't bad. It's not like the crowd is bad. It's just like I don't understand. There's no focus. Yeah, I just don't understand. It was like a high school lunch room. Yeah, it's like a good-looking crowd of people having fun, and most people look cool, you know what I mean, like in whatever they're trying to accomplish. But that's all I can focus on. You didn't get your hands on one of these suitcases, though, did you? How do they flip it? No, it's more of a briefcase. Okay, it's a briefcase. Yeah, I have no use for that, unfortunately. Okay. Does the briefcase look like a Rimowa suitcase, but then they put a Porsche logo on it? Porsche emblem, but it feels like the one from the car. It's like heavy duty. Oh, yeah. It's legit, man. It's legit. It's a real deal? But, yeah, it was nice to stop by. Yeah, man. You know, kiss babies. Yeah, I wanted to go out this weekend, but I was fucked. You're runned out, bro. We've been going out too much. How's your week looking this week? Is TJ booked and busy, or is he able to chill? I think I'm able to chill. I'll be fine. But now that I'm sick, it's weird. When you're a kid and you're sick, your mommy takes care of you, if you're lucky enough to have a mom. People will help you out. Just to be clear, you do have a mom. I do have a mom, yeah. You just lay on the couch. You watch TV. Someone brings you juice and soup. You watch six episodes of Mari Povich. You have a couple Capri Suns, and you're kind of good. And people sympathize. That's right. And now that I'm an adult, my life partner will take care of me. No, women don't sympathize with sickness. They think you're faking it. They think you're being a pussy.

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This is exactly what I would say. And I would say in some instances that might be true, but it's not like we're people that get sick often. So why are the ladies, not to be sexist, why are the ladies allowed to be sick? Because being sick, because I hate to admit this, I'm not a medical doctor, but being sick is a female trait. Fellas, is it gay to get sick? It's gay to get sick. Yeah, well, I first noticed this happen. Thank God your girlfriend and my girlfriend are... uh out hanging out together and and she's not in the next room over because she'd come in and start kicking me but when we were in mexico city a couple months ago i remember this and i had debilitating food poisoning your stomach hurt for two days your stomach my quote unquote air quote stomach hurt your stomach hurt quote just around the hurt she was she was kind of calling bullshit on it but it's like a nice it's like a nice like it's not nice oh carolyn's not very nice uh To you, which is what I like about her because we can kind of relate there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Treat me like a dog. She's not outright saying you're full of shit, no pun intended, considering this situation. It's just kind of like, hey, we're hanging out. It's the weekend. We're on vacation. It's a beautiful sunny day out. You happen to be sick with a legitimate ailment that is debilitating you. Legitimate to you. That has rendered you bedridden, and that happens to inconvenience my weekend plans. So now I am... I have to let you know that. Yeah, just kind of like... It would make my life easier if you weren't sick, you know? Yeah, I know. I get it, and I sort of like it. I sort of like it, too. I don't know why. Yeah. I guess I had it too good for too long as a youngster. That's right. Constantly being sick with different... I'm just not a sick guy. I mean, I'm sick, but I'm S-I-Q, but I'm not sick S-I-C-K. I used to be so sick all the time. Really? I had ear infections. I had sinus problems. Well, that just tracks back to you being bitch-made, and we've known that, I guess, since birth. And your mom told me that, but I didn't want to tell you that. You know what I mean? Her words, not yours. She's like, look, he's your problem now, but he's bitch-made. Oh, God.

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He's your problem now. She's handing you over. She hands you the sack lunch, and then the instructions for the eardrops, and she's like, now Jason's going to, three in the morning, three at night, and this amoxicillin, not on an empty stomach, so make sure to give him, he likes peanut butter toast, just to get a base going, otherwise he'll get kind of upset. And, you know, from there on, it's kind of up to you, you know. It's not going to be easy. I wish he is very bitch made. Your mom told me you're a bitch made. I didn't believe her. It's proven to be true. But luckily, it doesn't rear its ugly head that much. You push it down like some of your emotions. Yeah, I repress. But that's a problem. If grown adult males, gay or straight, any type of preference, are not allowed to be sick and be a bitch made, And it is all repressed. Then at some point. I was going to let itself out. Do we let some air out of the balloon or does the balloon pop? Great. What do you want? Great question. I don't. That's why that's why men kill. Oh, that's why we're driven to violence. Deviant pornography on the Internet and in written paper form. So you're saying that as well as VHS, you're saying that you're saying that because you are made fun of and not believe for being sick. that you are watching twisted VHS porn as a result. And Blu-ray. Thanks to the Samsung frame. I'm not saying me. It looks great on the frame. For giving the 1040p. I mean, that's 4K. I'm not saying that's me. I'm saying all, like if all males. Human behavior has been affected by men's sickness. If all adult males are not allowed to feel vulnerable, weak, and sick. Yeah. At any moment. Obviously, I've had to step up and be the. The man of the house ever since I was a youngster. That's right. You've been cleaning gutters since before you can even remember. That's right. Well, I think luckily we're not allowed to be sick, but now we're allowed to wear pearls, paint our fingernails, so it's fine. That's more important to me. I want people to be able to express themselves. Is it gayer to be sick or to wear a pearl necklace? Sick. For sure. What is more gay than being sick? No, you're right.

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If I see a guy wearing a pearl necklace, he's definitely going to try to fuck my chick. Yeah. Yeah. And he'll probably do it. Yeah. Lord, he's fucked it up for all of us, bro. That big bitch. He can afford the real pearls. I'm going to fuck your chick. Is he Australian? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, because he's in it. All the good ones are. I mean, he's like a hottie in that Ben Affleck movie, Deepwater. I didn't see Deepwater. It's kind of old. They shot it a while ago, so he's got this small role. But now he's so famous. You know what I mean? Like Emrata in Gone Girl. Exactly. He gets killed in a pool, but he's, of course, shirtless. I mean, who would be in a pool with a shirt on unless you're a fat Chris at 10 years old? But you know what I mean. I'm happy to leave the shirt on. It's fine. It's really sunny. Yeah, it's fine. But I just – Alordi – that magazine cover, I don't know what magazine it was, where Alordi was a little bit like – three-quarter profile with a dangling pearl and, like, a top on. A top. This motherfucker is going to take your chick. No, we talked about it when I was in your undefeated gym, and I was working out there, stretching, getting my PT, and I was like, oh, Kaia Gerber's there. And then I was like, oh, she's working out next to a guy. And then, you know, you're like, wow, Kaia Gerber, she's beautiful, beautiful young woman. That's right, she is. And then by the end of the workout, you're like, you don't even remember she's there because the Lordy is there. And they broke up. Now she's moved on to Austin Butler. Who the fuck is that? He's another, like, hot, young, you know. He's been around longer, though. Does he do backflips? I don't know. He's a guy who walks a dog in paparazzi pictures, and I think he keeps the – I think he does the thing where he puts it around his waist. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yes. And he's one of those Hollywood guys who's good-looking, but he's walking his dog in Carhartts and Red Wings. And it's like, bitch, you live in Beverly Hills. He's best known for being on a television series called Switched at Birth. Never heard of that. Yeah, he has a twin brother, I believe, or a brother that's also in Hollywood. He's 30 years old, and he's from Anaheim, so I probably know him. Yeah, you definitely know him. You gave him a noogie once. That's right.

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But Kaya, I think Kaya's problem, not her problem, she has no problems, obviously, is that when you're royalty like that and your mom's a legend and you don't need for anything, these guys, they're calling the paparazzi. What do you mean? I just think Kaya's like, look, I like these hot young guys because I'm a hot young chick and this is what I like, but they're getting more out of it than she is. They're calling the popper. Every time they go on a hike or a dog walk, there's pictures of it. That ain't Kaya. So I guess the problem is the young hot guys are never going to be as famous as the young hot girls. That's right, Jason. So that's just what it is. Well, some of them can be like, but I think that like the relationships really help. Like Austin Butler. Look at Travis Scott. Huge famous rapper. Very famous celebrity. pales in comparison to his partner that's right to his baby mama that's right yeah i mean jenner's jenner stuff you can't even i mean kanye west yeah not even close to being as yeah you're right but these guys these guys it's a little i mean it's like i don't know it's just i'm saying i think when you grow up in that situation you really don't care in a way that like cannot be manufactured like you just don't care i think it's because when you're when you're an attractive famous woman Guys follow you because they want to have sex with you. Girls follow you because they want to be you. But like a hot guy, like a Jacob Elordi, it's just women and gays who are following them. Like straight guys are like, oh, that guy's hot. Like you and I will be like, he's a good looking guy. But we're not going to follow him on social media. I mean, I'm not. You probably are for. Because it's part of your job. I would play Frisbee golf with the guy, but I'm not trying to follow him. Of course I play Frisbee. But, you know, we're not keeping up with these guys. We're not keeping up with the Elordi. So it's only one half of the species' sexuality. No, you're right, actually. You're right. I mean, that's why the – There's no Jacob Elordi lip kit that I'm interested in. That's right. Well, you know, I think the – funny you say that, though, because I think the person with the most followers on Instagram is – I think it's Cristiano Ronaldo.

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I think it's some sort of international athlete. Yeah, that's different. That's different. Football is huge. You get gays because he likes to wear the Y fronts. You get guys because they just love sports. And then you get chicks because they're like, look, this guy is definitely having sex with women that's not his wife. Also, chicks love sports too. No, they do. Not soccer. Yeah, they do. The beautiful game. And maybe in other countries. Oh, for sure. No, I mean, I love growing up in the OC, the soccer chicks in high school. You know, they were no 11s. But they kept a bong in the Civic. They were fun, great shape. Yeah. Their sixes and sevens, they knew it, and they made it work for them. It was good. I like that type of chick. They're not afraid to get the knee pads a little dirty, a little grass stain on them. I don't like what you're implying. I was not implying that. I was implying a slide tackle, not a Felicia. Well, then you must not know much about the beautiful game because there's no pads worn. Chris will come through. He'll slide tackle the dick. The shin guard? Come on, bro. The shin guard does not protect the knee. It protects the shin. That's a great point. Yeah, that's why it's called a shin guard. And you do need those depending on how dirty your opponent is playing. In fact, if let's say this podcast was a soccer match, I would unfortunately have to wear... Shin protectors. All of my below the belt hits. Exactly. Exactly. And maybe a cup. You know, not everyone's built for it. No, I'm not. In this game, there's no rules except win. You're right. Yeah, that's how people think about podcasting. I'm sure that's what Michael Barbaro says in his private executive bathroom mirror before he goes out to record another episode. Lastly, when we were flying to New York, you were talking about how you don't. like to take your shoes off on the airplane, right? Can't do it. Can't do it. I mean, I have. But what about when you're in the Delta One pod and nobody knows you're shoeless except for you? I've battled with this mentally and I just can't really. Here's the thing. The Delta One lay down pod is extremely comfortable and I welcome it, but I'm still not really going to sleep.

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I'm not going to really pass out for three hours. So you're like, if I'm not going to fall asleep, what's the point of taking off my challenging loafer? Exactly. The Drees loafer does have a nice heavy bottom, which can be uncomfortable for long periods of time. But I think I've been scarred by watching people walk to the bathroom with socks on. And I just can't. That's crazy. It's crazy. And it happens every single flight. I know, I know, I know. So I just can't. I know. I saw you took your New Balance off like a normal person. I'm the freak. Like, I think you're in the right. Obviously, I put the shoes back on if I get up and walk around to the bathroom. Exactly. If you have to go ask for a fourth bag of Miss Vickies, you will put the New Balance back on. I don't ask. I take. I'll hear you chomping all the way through my. I'll make a meal out of those Vickies. You guys got any dips for these? Yeah. In first class, I don't expect to have to bring my own onion dip. But wouldn't you know it? I sometimes have to. This flight was too expensive to not have an onion dip. But I was thinking about it when we were on the plane. I was like, one of my guesses is just knowing, like if no one can see it, let's say the thought of like Zendaya. is in 5C and you're in 3C. Zendaya's got to walk past your pod to use the shitter. Zendaya can look down in there and see the drees are off and she sees you in the socks getting cozy. The chances of that happening are slim, but just the possibility of it being there means it's not worth it for you. You won't be able to rest easily. No, it's more, honestly, Jason, I think a big part of this, now that you're really talking this out, is that I don't wear socks that often. Oh, got it, got it. So if I'm taking off a loafer, it's barefoot. And you don't want Zendaya to see that. I mean, I've been busy, and I'm back on the streets running, and a pedicure is overdue. Okay, that's good. I mean, maybe one day. Because you know Tom Holland's gay ass has beautiful feet. We can't get him to Tom Holland again. I know Brett Easton Ellis is listening right now. Brett's got pictures of Tom's feet all over his desktop as we speak. Brett's like, yeah, I got a few that.

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Most people haven't even seen. I'll send you a link to the Reddit. It's paywalled. If you want it. Trust me, it's worth it. Just meet me on the Discord. I love that Brett doesn't even speak in hushed tones by any means, but maybe this subject he would have to. Yeah, his eyes are kind of darting around the room. Make sure no one's paying attention. I don't like talking about this in public. You missed out. Lastly, as we end up, KK went to... the tower last night for dinner with the gaggle of hoes and she said not only was madonna there jesus but madonna's lips were there too and also there the entire cast of emily in paris was there they had some type of rap party shit yeah the the asian chick from emily in paris was at the remoa porsche party alex was starstruck i was like damn i only saw pedro there's other people here I need to go back to the tower ASAP. But I can't go as a pedestrian anymore. Honestly, though, the level of people there all the time is kind of insane. I know. I used to not get it, and now I fully get it. It's kind of crazy. But, yeah, we can go there whenever we want, Jason. That's the beauty of living in Hollywood. So, BJ, send me your avails this week for dinner. Let's just catch up. We don't need John to be there. I saw BJ post a selfie of him in the editing bay late night. Putting in work at 3 a.m. BJ, we believe you work. I believe that you work. I've seen your work on film and television, and I appreciate it. He puts in the hours. And I like you behind the camera as much as I like you in front of the camera. And that wasn't sexual. I agree. Okay, good. I just wanted to make sure you knew that. So yeah, BJ, you, me. Chris can come if he wants, but we don't need anyone else to be there. I'll be there more to kind of be like the stenographer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're there, documented down. BJ, extra cheese on the C's are interesting. No, it's going to be more of a, it's going to be more, since it's such a battle of the wits between you two, it's going to be more of a scorekeeping. Oh. Yeah. I kind of mentally tally what's going on, and at the end, I do reward one of you with a sundae on my credit card. Yeah. There's no winner or loser, but someone's walking home with a yummy sundae. Yeah, someone's going to leave with a belly full of sprinkles. And someone's driving away.

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In a Uber X, and someone's driving away in a very nice car. That's right. Well, yeah, thanks to the office. All right, well, how long gone? There's still a few tickets for Toronto left. We're getting excited about that. Our travel is booked. We're going to announce some other activations, of course, around that event. We'll be in town for a few days, touching the 6th. And also, I learned that marijuana is legal there, so I do not need your help. I'll be at the bridal path at Drake's house. I've sorted Jason a hotel closer to the venue. Oh, thanks, man. With our tour manager. If you want to do hair and makeup in my hotel before you walk down, you can use it. Some of our techs will be staying there. Let me know the times ahead of time. No problem. I kind of got a wing. I've been working on my jump shot, so I need access to kind of like a full court. Half isn't good enough for you? No, he was lucky. He was nice enough to kind of let me. Now that the weather's getting better over there, too. Well, he said that Adonis could take me in one-on-one, and I said, let's see, bitch. Oh, this is going to be good. Yeah, it's going to be great. All right, well, I guess that's it. Yeah. Have my sickness in your prayers, guys. Yeah. Jason's going to recover from long COVID, and everything's going to be okay. That's not a joke about your height. Thank you for joining us. More podcasts this week. Got eight inches of COVID lift. Shut the fuck up. I don't even know who we are talking to. You know what? Let me take a look, Jason. Do you know? I don't know. Do we have Salad Freak on yet? Oh, yeah, we do. Because the book just came out. Later this week, we are talking to Salad Freak, but on Tuesday, we have a famed British rocker that I kind of forgot I had booked. A young one. He's popping right now. So that'll be nice. We can ask him some cool questions about plants and stuff. Can't wait to talk to Harry Styles and salad books. Yeah, that's right. I love styles and salads. Thanks, Jason. Bye-bye. There's a club in the night to go.

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